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cheshirescat said:
Miguel_Zorro said:
method114 said:
 

I disagree. A lot of the new people who switch from MS to Sony (like me) wont want to buy Uncharted mainly because it's the #4 in the series. I have no idea what's been going on because I never played 1-3. Seems silly to hop into the fourth title in what I heard could be the last.

TLOU is the first in what will be many games so it was a good starting point for people.

1) They'll release an Uncharted collection with 1 to 3 on it before Uncharted comes out.  So it won't matter.

2) You don't really need to play each Uncharted to follow the story in the next one.

3) There are many examples where your argument doesn't hold up.  Halo 3, for example.  Grand Theft Auto.  Metal Gear Solid.


Did you mean halo 4?  Because it would be difficult to just jump into the halo series at three, since it is the continuation of a cliffhanger at the end of halo 2.

Well aparently 3.5 million people didn't seem to be bothered by it, being the number of people who bought Halo 3 but didn't buy Halo 2.



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CGI-Quality said:
DerNebel said:
CGI-Quality said:

I'm thinking Carl meant closer to 10 million. I would have to agree.  8-9 mill, at least.

I like to be a little more conservative with this, but yeah I could also easily see 8-9 million.

Normally, I am, but the PS4 has smashed, literally, every prediction I've had for it. So now, I'm taking the plunge! 

Then again, considering Uncharted is currently a 6 million+ franchise, 2 million more really isn't too unreasonable, especially with what seems like it could be the PS2's real successor.

Edit: This doesn't even consider The Last Of Us's fanbase (both PS3 & 4) now on board!

i would just like to remind you that Uncharted 3 is most likely severely undertracked as is TLoU on this site is. 

the Uncharted franchise shipped 17.32 million as of april 2012. VGC has the franchise at around 14.3~ million or so. a huge part of those 3 million that are uncounted for are most likely to be for UC3. UC:GA didnt do all that much as we know it, and its pretty much tracked right. UC2 was spot on before the holidays of 2011 (sony announced 5:9 million, VGC showed 5.8M). so where are those 3 million?  some could be for UC1, most likely too. others for UC2 which probably did better in the holidays than VGC showed and had a better boost due to UC3. but the majority is most likely for UC3. also remember, sony announced it shipped 3.8M day one for uncharted, doesnt make sense if the demand was just 1.3 million for the first week. 

its most likely undertracked by the severity of TLoU. i wouldnt be surprised if UC also shipped 7M+ by now, or even 8M+. 



loy310 said:
Xbox as a brand WW is stuck in 3rd place 3 gens in a row, that freaking sucks. Fact remains that no Xbox console have ever outperformed a Nintendo or Sony consol WW by the time the consoles are taken off the market. Can't see this gen being any differnt.


Everything is possible to happen i remember people saying the stronger console will never end first because all previous gen the weaker consoles sold the best



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

small44 said:
loy310 said:
Xbox as a brand WW is stuck in 3rd place 3 gens in a row, that freaking sucks. Fact remains that no Xbox console have ever outperformed a Nintendo or Sony consol WW by the time the consoles are taken off the market. Can't see this gen being any differnt.


Everything is possible to happen i remember people saying the stronger console will never end first because all previous gen the weaker consoles sold the best

That wasn't true last gen now was it? Sure Wii was the weakest and sold the best but then ps3 was considerably stronger than 360 and outsold it by 2mil+ when the gen ended.



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Ka-pi96 said:
Nicklesbe said:
small44 said:
loy310 said:
Xbox as a brand WW is stuck in 3rd place 3 gens in a row, that freaking sucks. Fact remains that no Xbox console have ever outperformed a Nintendo or Sony consol WW by the time the consoles are taken off the market. Can't see this gen being any differnt.


Everything is possible to happen i remember people saying the stronger console will never end first because all previous gen the weaker consoles sold the best

That wasn't true last gen now was it? Sure Wii was the weakest and sold the best but then ps3 was considerably stronger than 360 and outsold it by 2mil+ when the gen ended.


But it didn't come first so that statement is still true...

No it's not becuase that statement is plural meaning the two weakest consoles sold the best. Which isn't true. It wasn't true with Ps2 either. The Ps2 was stronger than the Xbox and outsold the xbox. Ps1 was the strongest console of it's time and again sold the most. So not true.



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Also you can argue that wii was the strongest console because it had the most innovative feature which was motion controls and still the best use of those motions controls. At the very least you could say they had the strongest input technology.



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Nicklesbe said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Nicklesbe said:
small44 said:
loy310 said:
Xbox as a brand WW is stuck in 3rd place 3 gens in a row, that freaking sucks. Fact remains that no Xbox console have ever outperformed a Nintendo or Sony consol WW by the time the consoles are taken off the market. Can't see this gen being any differnt.


Everything is possible to happen i remember people saying the stronger console will never end first because all previous gen the weaker consoles sold the best

That wasn't true last gen now was it? Sure Wii was the weakest and sold the best but then ps3 was considerably stronger than 360 and outsold it by 2mil+ when the gen ended.


But it didn't come first so that statement is still true...

No it's not becuase that statement is plural meaning the two weakest consoles sold the best. Which isn't true. It wasn't true with Ps2 either. The Ps2 was stronger than the Xbox and outsold the xbox. Ps1 was the strongest console of it's time and again sold the most. So not true.

3ds is weaker then psv and 3ds sold more,ds was weaker then psp and ds sold more,ps2 was weaker then gamecube and ps2 sold more.

But the real reason why weaker consoles always sold the best is that before ps4 all weaker console had better library then stronger consoles.

cross-gen games affect both ps4 and x1 sale with stronger 3rd party support it's possible to X1 to sold more then Wii u



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

Ka-pi96 said:
Nicklesbe said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Nicklesbe said:

That wasn't true last gen now was it? Sure Wii was the weakest and sold the best but then ps3 was considerably stronger than 360 and outsold it by 2mil+ when the gen ended.


But it didn't come first so that statement is still true...

No it's not becuase that statement is plural meaning the two weakest consoles sold the best. Which isn't true. It wasn't true with Ps2 either. The Ps2 was stronger than the Xbox and outsold the xbox. Ps1 was the strongest console of it's time and again sold the most. So not true.

Or it could have implied multiple weaker consoles have won their respective generations...

The Xbox was stronger than the PS2 and the N64 was stronger than the PS1, therefore the weaker consoles won those 2 generations.

Except that is not true. The Xbox was weaker than the Ps2 and the N64 was not stronger than the Ps1



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Nicklesbe said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Nicklesbe said:
small44 said:
loy310 said:
Xbox as a brand WW is stuck in 3rd place 3 gens in a row, that freaking sucks. Fact remains that no Xbox console have ever outperformed a Nintendo or Sony consol WW by the time the consoles are taken off the market. Can't see this gen being any differnt.


Everything is possible to happen i remember people saying the stronger console will never end first because all previous gen the weaker consoles sold the best

That wasn't true last gen now was it? Sure Wii was the weakest and sold the best but then ps3 was considerably stronger than 360 and outsold it by 2mil+ when the gen ended.


But it didn't come first so that statement is still true...

No it's not becuase that statement is plural meaning the two weakest consoles sold the best. Which isn't true. It wasn't true with Ps2 either. The Ps2 was stronger than the Xbox and outsold the xbox. Ps1 was the strongest console of it's time and again sold the most. So not true.

Exactly. Power alone means nothing.  Wii sold a lot in the first 3 years because of the motion controller and its peculiarity; its success had nothing to do with hardware performance and polygons per second.  PSX was simply the best console offering the most variety in the game experience, and it won. Same for PS2.

360 is an incredible console, close to beat PS3, again, because it is a great console and PS3 was so expensive at the beginning, also hard and complex to develop for, and released 1 full year after 360 in NA/Jap, and 16 months after in Europe.  It looks like Sony learnt a lesson with PS3 vs 360, and got stronger, while MS tried something that didn't work, and they got weaker as a consequence.

Playstation is overall the most popular console on the Planet, and with this PS4, mostly considering its competitors, no way one of them will be able to come back in the Global, no chance on earth.



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Nicklesbe said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Nicklesbe said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Nicklesbe said:

That wasn't true last gen now was it? Sure Wii was the weakest and sold the best but then ps3 was considerably stronger than 360 and outsold it by 2mil+ when the gen ended.


But it didn't come first so that statement is still true...

No it's not becuase that statement is plural meaning the two weakest consoles sold the best. Which isn't true. It wasn't true with Ps2 either. The Ps2 was stronger than the Xbox and outsold the xbox. Ps1 was the strongest console of it's time and again sold the most. So not true.

Or it could have implied multiple weaker consoles have won their respective generations...

The Xbox was stronger than the PS2 and the N64 was stronger than the PS1, therefore the weaker consoles won those 2 generations.

Except that is not true. The Xbox was weaker than the Ps2 and the N64 was not stronger than the Ps1

Ur absolutely wrong, im not trying to sound like a dick but seriously do 5 minutes of research, Xbox was more powerful than PS2 and N64 was more powerful than PS1.



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