It's been a while since I've bought a CD. But I'll pick up a clearance or used one if the price is less than DLing the tracks off the 'net. (I don't listen to a lot of music. And I have friends who give me mp3s from time to time so I rarely have to DL anything myself.) And as long as Apple continues to use their proprietary format on iTunes, I will NEVER buy a song from them. Just EVIL.

The problem with CD's is that 1) they're too expensive and 2) they often only have a few good songs.

Teenagers usually don't buy CD's anyway since most of them don't have jobs to begin with, so the effect that them using P2P is having on CD sales is de minimus.

CD's shouldn't cause anymore than $10. P2P became popular not because people are thieving ingrates who want everything for free, but because the industry wouldn't give them what they wanted. People got sick of paying $20 for a CD with two or three good songs and ten other pieces of crap, so they found an alternative.

CD sales would have probably never taken their plunge had they been adequately priced and had the record labels bothered to put out a few CD's where, god forbid, all the songs are of quality. CD sales are down because their product sucks, and their business model sucks.

I don't think this has anything to do with illegal copies, its due to the fact that most music sucks these days.

kitler53 said: ssj12 said: this still doesn't mean DD is going to be here for a long time. A 4MB song is way different then a 70MB song and definitely different then a 900MB TV episode or 4GB movie or a 45GB HD-Movie with HD audio. Still good that the RIAA wont have much power in the music industry soon.  hehe, well at least one person saw through my thinly veiled guise and got to the heart of my post. ...but every time i bring up DD all i hear is 1) zomg file sizes are too big to download and 2) the consumer can't live without the physical copy and cover art.  well....this article is just a nugget of knowledge against #2.  and i posted this before (don't feel like digging up the old thread) but it's a nugget of knowledge against #1. super high speed internet (up to 1.2 Gb/sec)http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/02/23/japan.satellite/ ...it's coming.  my excitement grows.

Agree DDl's are a lot closer to becoming mainstream than some of the non-conformists here would like to believe. It doesn't matter if someone who is dead-set in their ways cannot see it, [pause, chuckle] just remebered the dilemma Christophe Colon had when seeking funding for his voyage. Anyway like i said, it's coming.  As was the case with the past media formats, the trend seems to be holding true -- audio first, then video after.

One other thing *chuckles*.....what's the price of oil again....oh yeah 100 gajiggers. If popular opinion doesn't secure DDL's in the near future i guess economics will.

"Necessity is the mother of invention" a few words to live by.

 

kitler53 said: ssj12 said: this still doesn't mean DD is going to be here for a long time. A 4MB song is way different then a 70MB song and definitely different then a 900MB TV episode or 4GB movie or a 45GB HD-Movie with HD audio. Still good that the RIAA wont have much power in the music industry soon.  hehe, well at least one person saw through my thinly veiled guise and got to the heart of my post. ...but every time i bring up DD all i hear is 1) zomg file sizes are too big to download and 2) the consumer can't live without the physical copy and cover art.  well....this article is just a nugget of knowledge against #2.  and i posted this before (don't feel like digging up the old thread) but it's a nugget of knowledge against #1. super high speed internet (up to 1.2 Gb/sec)http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/02/23/japan.satellite/ ...it's coming.  my excitement grows.

yes those internet speeds are coming but 1.2 Gigabites, not Gigabytes, still will take forever to download a 45GB HD movie. The service wont be cheap either. Plus with the increase in speed will bring an increase in file sizes.

Ari_Gold said: stof said: Ari_Gold said: Soriku said: I never buy CDs. YouTube FTW! You clearly need to grow up. Musicians need money to survive you know, support them sometime. A lot of artists get most of their money from touring. Aside from the major seller's, CD's tend to be more for the record company than the artist. thats why i always buy my CDs @ shows

 *high five*

The vast majority of those teenagers probably have terrible taste in music, anyway. :P 

I buy cds, I have a ton. None by nasty large record labels though :) I might buy a few a year that are from bands you might hear on the radio.

I think this is all a good thing, its leveling out the power between the corporate manufactured BS bands and the kind of band that wants to do their own thing and keep true to the fact that music is supposed to be an art form.

Ari_Gold said: stof said: Ari_Gold said: Soriku said: I never buy CDs. YouTube FTW! You clearly need to grow up. Musicians need money to survive you know, support them sometime. A lot of artists get most of their money from touring. Aside from the major seller's, CD's tend to be more for the record company than the artist. thats why i always buy my CDs @ shows

 To support the band, you're better off buying a T-shirt. They have a high profit margin on those.

I like buying and listening to CD's, but hate downloading music. I have no MP3 player, but I do own a discman.

I'm old skool!

Ari_Gold said: Soriku said: I never buy CDs. YouTube FTW!  You clearly need to grow up. Musicians need money to survive you know, support them sometime.

LOL.  Musicians make pennies on the dollar when you buy a CD.  You wanna support musicians?  Buy their merchandise and attend their concerts.  Buying CDs only makes money for talentless men who wear suits and cheats artists out of the royalties they deserve.

If you think buying a CD helps an artist at all, it is you who needs to grow up.  You need to learn about the world around you, and how it actually works.  Even if you're buying them at concerts, unless they are on some sort of indie lable or no lable at all they are not taking in much money for it at all.  And then, if you are, chances are digital distribution (even the illegal sort) can be nothing but good for the bands you support because it'd get their name out there when otherwise they'd have no way to promote themselves.

This is common knowledge, and since you don't know it I'm going to have to say you have no business telling anyone else to grow up.