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@hylian
yes mafia try to get reactions so that they get put in the spotlight and potentially voted. Oh wait right, thats what I thought I'd think so I did the opposite. But I knew you'd think that too so I did the opposite. Against such a mind as yours though, clearly I knew you would anticipate that, so I did the opposite again. But alas you've figured me out.



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No wright I always get killed by mafia or serial killer.
Like I said, only lynched once. Its in the records somewhere. Everyone playing was like holy shit prof got lynched.



theprof00 said:
@hylian
change my style? Fucking brilliant mate. Clearly a mind without match.
how come I hadn't thought about that before.
look, here's some semantics. I said ALL I EVER GET is one night because seriously no matter what all I ever get is one or two nights. If im too quiet I get killed, if im aggressive I get killed, if I joke I get killed.
Its just what happens you Brainiac. This is the only way I get to play.
I can't believe you just grab me advice on how to play, how fucking egotistical are you?

Hard headed, know it all, egocentric, illogical. And I'm the threat to town?

Now there's an interesting observation, i'll have to reflect on this. Perhaps WoW's error was prescient.



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theprof00 said:
@hylian
change my style? Fucking brilliant mate. Clearly a mind without match.
how come I hadn't thought about that before.
look, here's some semantics. I said ALL I EVER GET is one night because seriously no matter what all I ever get is one or two nights. If im too quiet I get killed, if im aggressive I get killed, if I joke I get killed.
Its just what happens you Brainiac. This is the only way I get to play.
I can't believe you just grab me advice on how to play, how fucking egotistical are you?

Hard headed, know it all, egocentric, illogical. And I'm the threat to town?


First I'm flip-flopping and spineless and need other people's input to do anything, now I'm hard headed and a know it all. I just gave you some suggestions, that doesn't make me egotistical.



Ooh defensive. Looks like I hit a nerve.

And to answer you. Yes! You were a flipflopper on the active vs silent, you were spineless about wanting me gone and not doing anything about it. You're hard headed by saying every respond proves you right. Youre egotistical by saying that im playing incorrectly, and you're a know it all by thunking that you have the answer to everything.

When you just say all the words together, separated by the word then, sure, it does look like im being contrarian (something you have a lot of experience with yourself).
But when you separate them with EVIDENCE you know, like actual posts supporting those descriptions of hard headed etc, then its clear there is no discrepancy at all.

And NOW you're misrepresenting what happened to demonize me. You have tunnel vision.



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theprof00 said:
@hylian
change my style? Fucking brilliant mate. Clearly a mind without match.
how come I hadn't thought about that before.
look, here's some semantics. I said ALL I EVER GET is one night because seriously no matter what all I ever get is one or two nights. If im too quiet I get killed, if im aggressive I get killed, if I joke I get killed.
Its just what happens you Brainiac. This is the only way I get to play.
I can't believe you just grab me advice on how to play, how fucking egotistical are you?

Hard headed, know it all, egocentric, illogical. And I'm the threat to town?


Also, if you get killed no matter what you do, even as a townie, then you're doing something wrong. That's just common sense. The town has to win sometimes, and when they do, there are survivors. Why are you never one of them if you've tried everything? Nothing works? Well it works for some people, so I think you're doing something wrong.



If I wriit as a narrative, it goes like this.
Youre feeling out the town with the active vs silent because you realize youre looking pretty isolated in your opinion, so you couldnt really push an agenda that way so you "evolved" subtly toward the silent being suspicious. Then you saw some nubs supported your idea and went back to it. You then pushed that agenda on me really hard, and yet didnt put any vote on me despite saying that i was pretty much killing town.
Then when i argue my point, youre a know it all because apparently everything i did was EXACTLY what a mafia would say (WIFOM) , and you demonstrated your hardheadedness in this accusation by refusing to look at anyone else, saying "ill think about outlaw tomorrow". Then despite yet another argument from me explaining how i play and why i do, youre so egotistical to offer me advice ive been through a hundred times already.

It all boils down to you wanting to lynch me, using manipulation to get others on my vote , like helping rct vote me, and pretty much ognoring all reason against it. You were afraid to be on my lynch because you KNOW im going to flip town, coward. e I



theprof00 said:
Ooh defensive. Looks like I hit a nerve.

And to answer you. Yes! You were a flipflopper on the active vs silent, you were spineless about wanting me gone and not doing anything about it. You're hard headed by saying every respond proves you right. Youre egotistical by saying that im playing incorrectly, and you're a know it all by thunking that you have the answer to everything.

When you just say all the words together, separated by the word then, sure, it does look like im being contrarian (something you have a lot of experience with yourself).
But when you separate them with EVIDENCE you know, like actual posts supporting those descriptions of hard headed etc, then its clear there is no discrepancy at all.

And NOW you're misrepresenting what happened to demonize me. You have tunnel vision.


How does giving a little criticism automatically make me egotistical? I don't think I have the answer to everything either, I'm just stating my interpretation of things. I've admitted to several people that I may be wrong here. I don't have tunnel vision either. In the game, I accused you, but didn't vote for you. You called me spineless. I voted for you, because I genuinely thought you guilty, and you call me illogical and hardheaded. Seems I can't win unless I don't vote for you, even if I genuinely think you're mafia. Outside of the game, my "demonizing you" has nothing to do with my accusation of you in game, so that doesn't contribute to me having tunnel vision, it just means I'm defending myself, not as a player, but as a person. Forget being an aggressive player, now you're just being aggressive.



Damn colossal post, been putting it off for ages. On the up side, anyone could benefit from reading this.

 

Nicklesbe said:

I fail to see how asking if something is true or not, or how the mechanics of how something works signifies that an assumption has been made by the person asking said questions.*{1}

At italic@underlined I understand that. However it wouldn’t be “coaching” to clear up confusion and answer questions related to the basic mechanics of the game.*{2}

You intentionally lied and called RCT a noob when you knew he wasn't. It's very supiscious because it's dihonest, and more manipulative behavior.*{3}

 If you are a fellow townie your job is to be honest*{4}, find the truth, and try to find the liars.

You went from "Right now, we are relatively sure that mafia can't talk." Which would be true if you were a townie because all we know is WoW's words here: *snipped*

All we know so far is that mafia can talk at night. WoW did not and could not confirm that there are roles that subvert that. So how do you know? How do you now magically know that they can talk during the day?*{5} It's not possible for us to know that. Yet now you say twice and assume twice that you know Mafia can talk during the day. If you were a townie there is no way you could know that. So here is substantial slip #1

This is substantial slip #2. How do you know we can't have 10 mafia, and how do you know we should be looking for 5? *{6} My understanding is the rule of the game is informed minority Vs. uninformed majority. There are 15 of us I don't know but I'm not about to discount the possibility that there could be multiple factions. In a PM WoW said it was possible but gave another red herring like with talking day/night and niether confrimed or denied its existance in this game. In your first game that you shared you were in a seperate faction. So the most we can know is that it's a possibilty. If it was broken down into 3 factions it would still follow the rule of the game so long as none of the factions know who each other are. It would make sense considering his "usually" comment as well as this quote.

Notice the Mafia / Scum?*{7} I don't know but that could be a clue that there is a faction called Mafia and a faction called Scum. So we don't know it can or can't be 10. Also how do you know we should be looking for 5? Why not 7 or 9? How is it you magically know that there can't be 10 and that we should be looking for 5? Looks like another slip to me.*{6 again}

theprof00 said: Well wright, we dont actually have to lynch anyone ever. We can just let the mafia kill one town I each night and not try and kill them. Thats a fair strategy.

Why the chnage in heart? *{8} Before you were all gung ho and adamant that someone needed to be kicked out first day. Then people start talking about their characters and you did something really suspicious by parroting Noname and claiming that the characters don't matter *{9}

1. To be honest, I also got the impression that you knew something and slipped, from the way you wrote the question. But your answer later convinced me that that wasn't the case.

2. By not answering, he left room for a noob mafioso to slip and answer, especially with no caoching from pro mafia at the time. They didn't bite, but it was worth a shot.

3. Literally nothing. RCTjunkie's vote should be more concerning to you. He's no noob. I'll stop there. <--- FYI, I'm stopping to avoiding coaching.

4. No, it's not.

5. It was to trick IkePoR, who didn't correct him if you recall. Only noname2200 did. Think about it. He was a active part of the conversation when this happened. Do you reeeeally think he forgot or something and slipped? On the other hand, he proved that IkePoR wasn't paying any attention to what's going on.

6. Read a bit about mafia and you'll know why the numbers don't work. Plus, you really think he's that stupid? Prof, you should be offended ;)

7. No. Scum is just another name for mafia.

8. No change of heart here. That, my dear friend, is sarcasm. Have moar. (hint: see the word ever).

9. They don't. They can hinder town, though. Play one game with flavor and you'll know.

 

All in all, I still like you. Those are just mistakes a newcomer is bound to make. And thanks if you've gotten this far : p



@hylian
and you're being defensive. Which confirms to me that you've been called at least a couple of these things before.
which means im pn the right track.
I dont mean to say things to hurt you, but I am trying to get to the bottom of this.

Look at it this way, if indeed you ARE an egotistical hard headed person, then that means you could actually be a townies.

And I called you spineless because you know im going to flip town and you didnt want to initiate that lynch train because you knew it would point back to you and get you lynched. Brother you know I HAVE been mafia before. I know all the tricks. You make a really convincing accusation and hope other people bandwagon on to it. Its really mafia 101.