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Ari_Gold on 26 February 2008

Made this thread because of the usual JRPGS bomb comment on every thread. Last Gen only 10 Jrpgs Broke the 1 million Sales Mark. People have crazy expectations if they think JRPGs are casual titles and have to sell millions to be a success. If the System with the Highest Userbase Ever only had 8 Million Sellers, and only 17 games broke the 350k sales mark, how would you define a JRPGs success?

 

Blue Dragon has already sold 460k, and its considered a complete failure, but the userbase on the  xbox 360 is 1/10th of the PS2, and it already sold enough to place it on the 15th place among PS2's JRPG Sales. I would say its a damn impressive feat, and a success.

3
Blue DragonMicrosoft11,7917.070.46m

Lost Odysseyhas sold over 200k already, and its considered a BOMB, yet it still has to be released in Europe. It had a spectacular debut on the US by selling 100k. So far it's on the 27th place among the PS2's JRPG Sales. This game could end up selling 500k. Dare i say, another success for a JRPG.

5
Lost OdysseyMicrosoft 11,9667.060.20m

Eternal Sonata, sent to die as most people said, has sold 210k, it would place on the 29th place among Ps2's JRPG sales. With the PS3's upcoming Port.. both versions combined could end up selling 500k. Not bad, but not good.

4
Eternal SonataNamco Bandai4,7487.740.21m

The Top 40 List of PS2's JRPGs

Summary - 8 Million Sellers, all by S-E

PosGameConsolePublisherHitsScoreSales
1
Final Fantasy XSquare EA7,6057.867.95m
2
Kingdom HeartsSquare EA2,7867.755.50m
3
Final Fantasy X-2Square Enix2,8177.665.21m
4
Final Fantasy XIISquare Enix9,0607.855.01m
5
Dragon Quest VIIIEnix3,7047.754.69m
6
Kingdom Hearts IISquare Enix3,6847.843.69m
7
Dragon Quest V (Remake)N/A6158.501.65m
8
X-Men LegendsActivision3947.751.60m
9
Star Ocean: Till The End of TimeSquare Enix1,5247.571.29m
10
Marvel: Ultimate AllianceActivision3827.290.65m
11
Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed KingSquare Enix3988.670.61m
12
Monster Hunter 2Capcom6376.440.60m
13
Tales of the AbyssNamco1,3067.030.57m
14
Kingdom Hearts: Final MixSquare6747.130.55m
15
Xenosaga Episode 1Namco7607.810.45m
16
Persona 3Atlus2,9897.840.40m
17
Valkyrie Profile 2: SilmeriaSquare Enix7207.770.39m
18
Suikoden IIIKonami5397.790.38m
19
Rogue GalaxySony6878.890.36m
20
Tales of LegendiaNamco6207.750.35m
21
Suikoden IVKonami5857.720.31m
22
Radiata StoriesSquare Enix4717.530.29m
23
Odin SphereAtlus1,5367.410.28m
24
Final Fantasy X InternationalN/A4517.750.27m
25
Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix +Square Enix3406.400.26m
26
Full Metal AlchemistSquare Enix1827.380.26m
27
Grandia IIISquare Enix3387.400.24m
28
Monster Hunter GN/A3287.000.23m
29
Suikoden VKonami6717.850.19m
30
Xenosaga Episode IIINamco8317.540.18m
31
hack G.U. Vol. 3 1727.000.17m
32
Persona 3 Fes 5208.710.16m
33
Disgaea 2NIS America8048.000.15m
34
Tales of Destiny: Directors CutBandai Namco5877.000.14m
35
Shining Wind 3557.600.13m
36
Phantasy Star Universe: Ambition of the Illuminus  3077.000.13m
37
Ar Tonelico 2N/A8300.000.11m
38
Final Fantasy XI Online: Wings of the Goddess Expansion PackSquare Enix2890.000.11m
39
Final Fantasy XI Aht Urhgan Expansion Square Enix3697.750.10m
40
.hack//G.U. Vol. 2 ReminisceNamco Bandai Games2497.750.10m


Top 5 Gamecube JRPGs Sales 

Summary: 2 Million Sellers, Both Games were Published By Nintendo, but one by Developed by Namco

1
Paper Mario 2Nintendo2,2717.821.95m
2
Tales of SymphoniaNamco3,4767.801.08m
3
Pokemon XD: Gale Of DarknessNintendo9076.970.95m
4
Fire Emblem IX: Path of RadianceNintendo1,8487.800.16m
5
Phantasy Star Online Episodes 1 and 2Sega3316.250.16m

 

 

 



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Kasz216 on 26 February 2008

This only strengthens your point... but why are Xmen and Marvel games listed?

But yeah. RPGS not named Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest tend to not sell.... well anything not made by square in anycase.



akuma587 on 26 February 2008

A lot of these games don't even have American sales data, let alone European data. I agree with you on a very general level, but I don't think you have enough information to make some of the generalizations you have made.

Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey also had more hype behind them than some of these games as well.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

Carazo on 26 February 2008

The sales of most of the PS2 RPGs isn’t up to date, or lack US and PAL numbers.

One of the producers of Level 5 said in a Spanish magazine called Hobby Consolas that Rogue Galaxy had sold about 400,000 in Europe and America, which would put it at about 800,000 worldwide. Dark Cloud 1 & 2 are millions sellers, and there are probably a lot of games there which should be close to the 1m mark.

So your arguments are false, and then again, you should compare big-budget games with big-budget games, and not big-budget games with low-budget games which barely get any marketing (Disgaea,Air Tornelico).



Bagaren85 on 26 February 2008

Yes. Exactly what i always thought. Good thread!



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Ari_Gold on 26 February 2008
Carazo said:
The sales of most of the PS2 RPGs isn’t up to date, or lack US and PAL numbers.

One of the producers of Level 5 said in a Spanish magazine called Hobby Consolas that Rogue Galaxy had sold about 400,000 in Europe and America, which would put it at about 800,000 worldwide. Dark Cloud 1 & 2 are millions sellers, and there are probably a lot of games there which should be close to the 1m mark.

So your arguments are false, and then again, you should compare big-budget games with big-budget games, and not big-budget games with low-budget games which barely get any marketing (Disgaea,Air Tornelico).

 got any proof? links? back up your claims



akuma587 on 26 February 2008
Ari_Gold said:
Carazo said:
The sales of most of the PS2 RPGs isn’t up to date, or lack US and PAL numbers.

One of the producers of Level 5 said in a Spanish magazine called Hobby Consolas that Rogue Galaxy had sold about 400,000 in Europe and America, which would put it at about 800,000 worldwide. Dark Cloud 1 & 2 are millions sellers, and there are probably a lot of games there which should be close to the 1m mark.

So your arguments are false, and then again, you should compare big-budget games with big-budget games, and not big-budget games with low-budget games which barely get any marketing (Disgaea,Air Tornelico).

got any proof? links? back up your claims

He has about as much as you do. 

Dark Cloud 1 was definitely a million seller (had a greatest hits run).  I am pretty sure 2 was, but I have no proof.

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

Ari_Gold on 26 February 2008
akuma587 said:
Ari_Gold said:
Carazo said:
The sales of most of the PS2 RPGs isn’t up to date, or lack US and PAL numbers.

One of the producers of Level 5 said in a Spanish magazine called Hobby Consolas that Rogue Galaxy had sold about 400,000 in Europe and America, which would put it at about 800,000 worldwide. Dark Cloud 1 & 2 are millions sellers, and there are probably a lot of games there which should be close to the 1m mark.

So your arguments are false, and then again, you should compare big-budget games with big-budget games, and not big-budget games with low-budget games which barely get any marketing (Disgaea,Air Tornelico).

got any proof? links? back up your claims

He has about as much as you do.

Dark Cloud 1 was definitely a million seller (had a greatest hits run). I am pretty sure 2 was, but I have no proof.

 


vgchartz is my source, he has none

regarding Dark Cloud 1 & 2, i hope they were undertracked,  they were great games 



Riachu on 26 February 2008
akuma587 said:
Ari_Gold said:
Carazo said:
The sales of most of the PS2 RPGs isn’t up to date, or lack US and PAL numbers.

One of the producers of Level 5 said in a Spanish magazine called Hobby Consolas that Rogue Galaxy had sold about 400,000 in Europe and America, which would put it at about 800,000 worldwide. Dark Cloud 1 & 2 are millions sellers, and there are probably a lot of games there which should be close to the 1m mark.

So your arguments are false, and then again, you should compare big-budget games with big-budget games, and not big-budget games with low-budget games which barely get any marketing (Disgaea,Air Tornelico).

got any proof? links? back up your claims

He has about as much as you do.

Dark Cloud 1 was definitely a million seller (had a greatest hits run). I am pretty sure 2 was, but I have no proof.

 


 Actually, Dark Cloud 2 didn't sell all that great.  The sales were decent but not great.



 

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Ari_Gold on 26 February 2008
Riachu said:
akuma587 said:
Ari_Gold said:
Carazo said:
The sales of most of the PS2 RPGs isn’t up to date, or lack US and PAL numbers.

One of the producers of Level 5 said in a Spanish magazine called Hobby Consolas that Rogue Galaxy had sold about 400,000 in Europe and America, which would put it at about 800,000 worldwide. Dark Cloud 1 & 2 are millions sellers, and there are probably a lot of games there which should be close to the 1m mark.

So your arguments are false, and then again, you should compare big-budget games with big-budget games, and not big-budget games with low-budget games which barely get any marketing (Disgaea,Air Tornelico).

got any proof? links? back up your claims

He has about as much as you do.

Dark Cloud 1 was definitely a million seller (had a greatest hits run). I am pretty sure 2 was, but I have no proof.

 


Actually, Dark Cloud 2 didn't sell all that great. The sales were decent but not great.

thats pretty sad