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Forums - Sony - The 30 FPS Lock in The Last of Us Remastered Enables ‘Higher-Quality Shadows In-Game’

FATALITY on 25 July 2014
daredevil.shark said:


Kudos to naughty dog for their awesome job. But I dont care what they do as long as the finished product is good. $50 for the same game (with sharper images and DLC) I played a year ago? Nah. My money is more valuable. General public or average gamers want to see end results not the game making process.


nobody forced u to buy 

and your decisions are irrelevant here



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Raziel123 on 25 July 2014
Aura7541 said:

http://www.gamepur.com/news/15548-tlou-remastered-ps4-early-impression-fps-drops-50-55-once-streamscreen-do.html

I should iterate that I'm not knocking down on TLOU: R, whatsoever. What ND has done with this game is nothing short of amazing because they had to redo the code that was designed for the Cell. If they can do that, then they can definitely hit 1080p 60 fps locked for Uncharted 4.


I'd like to know what he used to measure the framerate.



daredevil.shark on 25 July 2014
FATALITY said:
daredevil.shark said:


Kudos to naughty dog for their awesome job. But I dont care what they do as long as the finished product is good. $50 for the same game (with sharper images and DLC) I played a year ago? Nah. My money is more valuable. General public or average gamers want to see end results not the game making process.


nobody forced u to buy 

and your decisions are irrelevant here


I agree. But I am free to express my opinion. And I will keep expressing it.



Wildcard36qs on 25 July 2014

It is just shadows guys. They explained a while ago the 30fps was for the PS3 "purists" who wanted the game to feel as close to the original. With them limiting it to 30fps, they could up some details that would probably hurt that 60fps mark. This is the way every developer should do it. Give the user an option to play @ 60fps but lose some detail, or play @ 30fps and gain some detail.

I am a PC gamer #1 and the first thing aside from AA that I turn down to gain fps is shadows. They look good sure, but you hardly notice it when enjoying the game and they hit the performance a lot.



FATALITY on 25 July 2014
Aura7541 said:
Raziel123 said:
Aura7541 said:

Framerate actually does drop below 60 fps. However, it's a really rare occassion and only happens when a shitton happens at once. Even then, the framerate drops by only a bit to 55 fps.


Source? 

http://www.gamepur.com/news/15548-tlou-remastered-ps4-early-impression-fps-drops-50-55-once-streamscreen-do.html

I should iterate that I'm not knocking down on TLOU: R, whatsoever. What ND has done with this game is nothing short of amazing because they had to redo the code that was designed for the Cell. If they can do that, then they can definitely hit 1080p 60 fps locked for Uncharted 4.


It's pretty solid. I haven't noticed any frame drops EXCEPT when during extremely heavy particle effects and lots of movement is happening, which only happened once. During that part, it dropped to may be 50-55.

 

since when this is confirmation of anything?



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Aura7541 on 25 July 2014
Raziel123 said:
Aura7541 said:

http://www.gamepur.com/news/15548-tlou-remastered-ps4-early-impression-fps-drops-50-55-once-streamscreen-do.html

I should iterate that I'm not knocking down on TLOU: R, whatsoever. What ND has done with this game is nothing short of amazing because they had to redo the code that was designed for the Cell. If they can do that, then they can definitely hit 1080p 60 fps locked for Uncharted 4.


I'd like to know what he used to measure the framerate.

Not sure and I don't know. Maybe FRAPS? Also, the drop only happens in multiplayer (and you'd have to make it happen deliberately coming from how rare it sounds), too, so singleplayer is perfectly intact and "locked". 



Vena on 25 July 2014
Zekkyou said:

Using TLOU:R as a reference for UC4's potential is silly. I don't personally think they will hit a locked 60fps for it, but still. One is being built from the ground up on PS4 tech. The other was, to quote ND, hell:

"I wish we had a button that was like ‘Turn On PS4 Mode’, but no," Druckmann said. "We expected it to be hell, and it was hell. Just getting an image onscreen, even an inferior one with the shadows broken, lighting broken and with it crashing every 30 seconds … that took a long time. These engineers are some of the best in the industry and they optimized the game so much for the PS3’s SPUs specifically. It was optimized on a binary level, but after shifting those things over, you have to go back to the high level, make sure the systems are intact, and optimize it again.

"I can’t describe how difficult a task that is. And once it’s running well, you’re running the [versions] side by side to make sure you didn’t screw something up in the process, like physics being slightly off, which throws the game off, or lighting being shifted and all of a sudden it’s a drastically different look. That’s not ‘improved’ any more; that’s different. We want to stay faithful while being better."

It's pretty amusing though. The Cell was the pain of many developers existance for the entirity of the 7th gen. We're now moving into the 8th and it's still fucking with them :p


Well, yes, I did say that the original was built for a different architecture (ie. Cell) and now they are dealing with X86, so I do agree that they are built differently and it does make the comparison hard. Its simply a bit of an alarm for some people all things considered. It could prove false, it could prove not. I'm not really trying to say that the "THE WORLD IS CRASHING! EVERYONE RUN!" but more highlighting the apparent short coming.

Now, if U4 truly can't achieved a locked 60FPS, then I do think we may start seeing dolphins taking off into orbit. May want to pack your bags then, because I, for one, do not want to get paved over for an intergalactic highway.

(And I still don't know why they movd away from PPC to x86... other than cheapness.)



FATALITY on 25 July 2014
daredevil.shark said:
FATALITY said:
daredevil.shark said:


Kudos to naughty dog for their awesome job. But I dont care what they do as long as the finished product is good. $50 for the same game (with sharper images and DLC) I played a year ago? Nah. My money is more valuable. General public or average gamers want to see end results not the game making process.


nobody forced u to buy 

and your decisions are irrelevant here


I agree. But I am free to express my opinion. And I will keep expressing it.

whatever



”The environment where PlayStation wins is best for this industry” (Jack Tretton, 2009)

ohmylanta1003 on 25 July 2014
FATALITY said:
daredevil.shark said:
FATALITY said:
daredevil.shark said:


Kudos to naughty dog for their awesome job. But I dont care what they do as long as the finished product is good. $50 for the same game (with sharper images and DLC) I played a year ago? Nah. My money is more valuable. General public or average gamers want to see end results not the game making process.


nobody forced u to buy 

and your decisions are irrelevant here


I agree. But I am free to express my opinion. And I will keep expressing it.

whatever


Damn dude. What's your issue? Knocking on every single person that's posting in this thread.



I bet the Wii U would sell more than 15M LTD by the end of 2015. He bet it would sell less. I lost.

FATALITY on 25 July 2014
ohmylanta1003 said:
FATALITY said:
daredevil.shark said:
FATALITY said:
daredevil.shark said:


Kudos to naughty dog for their awesome job. But I dont care what they do as long as the finished product is good. $50 for the same game (with sharper images and DLC) I played a year ago? Nah. My money is more valuable. General public or average gamers want to see end results not the game making process.


nobody forced u to buy 

and your decisions are irrelevant here


I agree. But I am free to express my opinion. And I will keep expressing it.

whatever


Damn dude. What's your issue? Knocking on every single person that's posting in this thread.

lol no.

is this thread about shadows or is about complain about the price because nobody did that b4 in so many threads about the last of us remaster



”The environment where PlayStation wins is best for this industry” (Jack Tretton, 2009)