Hey, that point of view is fine too--as long as it's consistent.  If you're gonna condemn Microsoft for it, condemn everybody.  If you're gonna ignore it when Nintendo or Sony does it, ignore it when Microsoft does it.

It's the flip flopping of what's acceptable and what's not that I can't stand.

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Frankly i never did understand the console war.. If i choose a console it is simply for games, i don't care what compagny ownes it, if it is great, i'll take it and support the console for it.
If i will never support microsoft, it is mainly because they never offered me game which made me want to buy their consoles ( i really don't care about halo or gears of war, i'm more of a jrpg person so.. 3ds ).
It is kind of silly but i hope one day sony, microsoft and nintendo will focus on creating game and not developping new consoles.

They kinda did force people to buy it considering if you bought a game that had online multiplayer, the online portion wouldn't work until people paid for XBL so yea, I don't think many had a choice and those of us went to Playstation instead... Well now, psn requires ps+ to play online. I mean, how is XBL and PSN a great deal with you get the same features and more on Steam for free? Sure, you get some pre-selected games for free but the Steam sales more than make up for it considering during Summer and Winter when Steam has events, there are many ways to get the games on your wishlist for free or at a largely discounted price... Heck, PS+ and XBL basically adds $300 over the course of 5 years to the $400 console that you already paid for and for what? Features that Steam gives you for free? Heck, Steam even has mod support and family sharing which are also free that ps+/xbl doesn't even have

I mean, don't you think its kind of sad that a service that people have been paying for all these years is lagging behind a free service?

Sure. If it was that bad American Nightmare wouldn't be a thing.

Let me use the internet to inform myself:

Sales

NPD Group stated sales for the first two weeks reached 145,000 units.^[108] According to a report, Alan Wake is the second most pirated Xbox 360 game of 2010, with more than 1.1 million downloads.^[109] According to a report by IndustryGamers, sales of Alan Wake would be much higher than previously estimated, at around 1.4 million, as of December 2011. This includes the digital sales of the game during the Xbox 360 2011 Holiday bundle, which included a token to download Alan Wake, as well as a retail copy of Forza Motorsport 3.

On 13 March 2012, Remedy Entertainment announced that the game has passed 2 million copies sold, including Xbox 360 and PC.^[110] On 23 May 2013 Remedy creative director Sam Lake announced that the game has sold 3 million copies.^[111]

Nope, MS is the source of all evil, even chlamydia.

Well, Nintendo certainly wrote the book on anti-competitive business practices in the gaming industry, I doubt anyone would deny that. Microsoft hasn't come close to topping them. Everyone is guilty, though. These are businesses who have making money as their first, second, and third goal.

The only thing that I really, truly hold against Microsoft is the garbage known as Games for Windows Live. For that alone they should burn in hell for a few years.

Looking at your favorite console company as your dad is a bit much, but ok... :p
If the general consensus is, this is a shitty practice, then those who still keep running the red light are indeed to blame.

It's all fine now, online drm averted, games with gold to sweeten the deal, Kinect ditched, and buying exclusivity is nothing more than contracting 1st party games after all. Now if only they could fit that ugly power brick inside the console. I already have the 360 one hanging outside the av cabinet with a separate cable to it. (Same goes for the WiiU, but that one at least is easy to stick behind it)

For $32 a year, I could watch all major European soccer on 720p every weekend on ESPN app, plus online gaming.

You tell me where I could/can get this deal. Less than $3 a month.

I once listened to lost odyssey music, it was really good indeed. And blue dragon seems cool also but if one day i got an xbox 360 i'll get lost odyssey :p ( and alan wake )