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I am pretty sure 95%+ of the population doesn't see the difference either, they are just told one is better so there for their mind will tell them that they can see the difference. Though it does also depend on the TV size and the game and how much difference there really is.



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Harvey Eagle.

HARVEY.

EAGLE.



There was a bit of a communications balls up. I think what he meant to say was..............

"I personally struggle to not see the difference."   

"One machine is more powerful than another, then it's important, and we're trying to allow developers to bring games to Xbox One at the highest resolution and frame rate as possible."

"There is some GPU power that can be allocated to Kinect that we're now freeing up for developers if they want to increase the fidelity of their games."

Eagle told CVG.

It all makes sense now. 




Cause there was realy a fat chance a XOne marketing guy was gona come up and say: " Theres a very perceivable difference, the XOne is the weaker console and theres nothing we can do about it."

Come on!! I dont personaly think the resolution matters but quoting a Xbox guy saying it doesnt matter holds 0 credibility.



Sal.Paradise said:
Harvey Eagle.

HARVEY.

EAGLE.

I won't lie, I read it as Harvey Dent for a while XD



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VanceIX said:
Sal.Paradise said:
Harvey Eagle.

HARVEY.

EAGLE.

I won't lie, I read it as Harvey Dent for a while XD


He is not the hero we need but the hero we deserve ? Or is he the hero we need but not the one we deserve ?



Meanwhile, people are playing MK8 and enjoying the hell out of it. Seriously. Enough with the horse power garbage.



DakonBlackblade said:
VanceIX said:
Sal.Paradise said:
Harvey Eagle.

HARVEY.

EAGLE.

I won't lie, I read it as Harvey Dent for a while XD


He is not the hero we need but the hero we deserve ? Or is he the hero we need but not the one we deserve ?





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Wow lol a lot of BS from that origin guy but he is not alone...

PR or not he is right and a lot of you are wrong.

@originwjatever if you still read that
first higher resolution doesn't make anything look better it makes things look sharper but certainly not better.... Yeah sure if you have your nose on the screen it might to some extend... But that's about it especially with video games where no matter how many pixel you add it won't make more detail appear than what the creator created in the first place anyway...
and with real picture or video while in some cases sharpness makes more detail visible which could not be seen at a lower red it actually makes some look worse buy revealing too much of what was there in the first place... I.e. Some old TV shows look horrible in HD because everything looks fake and all the details that were filtered by the lens or the post processing now appears...

ok now that we cleared that more pixel just makes things look sharper and in no way better (it does not improve what's already there)

lets go to the second fact again, you said even on small screens you can see it... True at 1 foot from a PC screen you can see it (if you have a good monitor which more than 80% of people don't have btw) but to be frank I'd rather play or watch video at 720p on a big TV than 4k on a 24" computer screen sitting alone, but that's me... To each their own...
anyway if you are in a living room setting chances are your seating position and the TV position are at a fix point. And in that case the smaller the screen the less you will see the difference and you can argue all you want than is actually a biophysical fact... Yeah some people have better eye sight than other bit unless you are a member of doctor Xavier team you are a liar if you tell me you can see the difference between 1080p/720p after you reach a certain threshold of seating distance to screen size ratio...

anyway now that we physically proved that all other things kept equal the smaller the screen the less you can see the difference...

you have to consider the untrained eye of most non hardcore, the fact that focus is not on pixel count when watching /gaming for most people, and motion is distracting to do pixel count if you don't know what to look for I can guaranty you that on a smaller than 60" TV a shit tone of people if picked randomly wouldn't see the difference in a normal setting, playing/watching normally...

now all that crap being repeated for the X time... I'd much rather see dev focus on that almost irrelevant factor which is resolution and work harder on frame rate or actually make the games look better instead of sharper... Like actual details, lightning, physics, AI, art style.... So yeah that console war and Sony is actually making games look worst than they should... Resolution war is damaging more than improving games... clap clap clap Sony...



endimion said:
Wow lol a lot of BS from that origin guy but he is not alone...

PR or not he is right and a lot of you are wrong.

@originwjatever if you still read that
first higher resolution doesn't make anything look better it makes things look sharper but certainly not better.... Yeah sure if you have your nose on the screen it might to some extend... But that's about it especially with video games where no matter how many pixel you add it won't make more detail appear than what the creator created in the first place anyway...
and with real picture or video while in some cases sharpness makes more detail visible which could not be seen at a lower red it actually makes some look worse buy revealing too much of what was there in the first place... I.e. Some old TV shows look horrible in HD because everything looks fake and all the details that were filtered by the lens or the post processing now appears...

ok now that we cleared that more pixel just makes things look sharper and in no way better (it does not improve what's already there)

lets go to the second fact again, you said even on small screens you can see it... True at 1 foot from a PC screen you can see it (if you have a good monitor which more than 80% of people don't have btw) but to be frank I'd rather play or watch video at 720p on a big TV than 4k on a 24" computer screen sitting alone, but that's me... To each their own...
anyway if you are in a living room setting chances are your seating position and the TV position are at a fix point. And in that case the smaller the screen the less you will see the difference and you can argue all you want than is actually a biophysical fact... Yeah some people have better eye sight than other bit unless you are a member of doctor Xavier team you are a liar if you tell me you can see the difference between 1080p/720p after you reach a certain threshold of seating distance to screen size ratio...

anyway now that we physically proved that all other things kept equal the smaller the screen the less you can see the difference...

you have to consider the untrained eye of most non hardcore, the fact that focus is not on pixel count when watching /gaming for most people, and motion is distracting to do pixel count if you don't know what to look for I can guaranty you that on a smaller than 60" TV a shit tone of people if picked randomly wouldn't see the difference in a normal setting, playing/watching normally...

now all that crap being repeated for the X time... I'd much rather see dev focus on that almost irrelevant factor which is resolution and work harder on frame rate or actually make the games look better instead of sharper... Like actual details, lightning, physics, AI, art style.... So yeah that console war and Sony is actually making games look worst than they should... Resolution war is damaging more than improving games... clap clap clap Sony...

You were actually making a point until you made this Sony's fault. How is it their fault that developers are coming out and saying the resolution is inferior on the Xbox counterpart?!



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