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S.T.A.G.E. on 04 July 2014
Dark Chaos said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Dark Chaos said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Had nothing to do with Cliffy being gone. It had everything to do with the original team not being around. Epic had to get someone to make the game since Microsofts no talent selves couldn't make a game for themselves and they make comissioned People Can Fly to make that crap.

Wrong again. Epic worked on the multiplayer part of the game. People can fly worked on the SP. Regarldless Cliffy B wasn't involved in the multiplayer and it sucked so proves how vital he is to the team.

You do realize that most people were complaining about the SP right? The multiplayer was ok. People continued to play the multiplayer even though the single player sucked.

Source?

The single player was really good. It was the lackluster MP with only 4 maps. Go into the forums and see for youself.

Also, the populations numbers for GOWJ are a lot lower than GOW3

Microsoft took some members of the Gears team including Rod Fergusson whom was the main producer on the Gears franchise and brought them over to Black Tusk studios. Fergusson was not involved in the development of Judgement and will be involved in the development of the next Gears. Microsoft is going all out on this even scooping up former Sony Santamonica and Irrational Games workers who were laid off. Since Microsoft acquired Fergussons services in January he's stated that they will be taking liberties with the story to have it make sense for the next game. The last time they gave us info on Gears they stated its still not even past the conceptual phase yet.

http://www.polygon.com/2014/1/27/5345342/gears-of-war-xbox-one-microsoft-epic-games-rod-fergusson



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S.T.A.G.E. on 04 July 2014
Dark Chaos said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Dark Chaos said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

You do realize that most people were complaining about the SP right? The multiplayer was ok. People continued to play the multiplayer even though the single player sucked.

Source?

The single player was really good. It was the lackluster MP with only 4 maps. Go into the forums and see for youself.

Also, the populations numbers for GOWJ are a lot lower than GOW3

Microsoft took some members of the Gears team including Rod Fergusson whom was the main producer on the Gears franchise and brought them over to Black Tusk studios. Fergusson was not involved in the development of Judgement and will be involved in the development of the next Gears. Microsoft is going all out on this even scooping up former Sony Santamonica and Irrational Games workers who were laid off. Since Microsoft acquired Fergussons services in January he's stated that they will be taking liberties with the story to have it make sense for the next game. The last time they gave us info on Gears they stated its still not even past the conceptual phase yet.

http://www.polygon.com/2014/1/27/5345342/gears-of-war-xbox-one-microsoft-epic-games-rod-fergusson

This explains nothing. GOWJ was a prequel that had very little to do with the GOW trilogy story wise.

All he said was he was going to modify the story of GOW to make sure it works for GOW4.


Dude...you know the trilogy is over right? They need to expand the universe. Fergusson and Blesinski were behind the Gears trilogy and it will be modified to preserve it while under Microsofts ownership. 



Dark Chaos on 04 July 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Dark Chaos said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Microsoft took some members of the Gears team including Rod Fergusson whom was the main producer on the Gears franchise and brought them over to Black Tusk studios. Fergusson was not involved in the development of Judgement and will be involved in the development of the next Gears. Microsoft is going all out on this even scooping up former Sony Santamonica and Irrational Games workers who were laid off. Since Microsoft acquired Fergussons services in January he's stated that they will be taking liberties with the story to have it make sense for the next game. The last time they gave us info on Gears they stated its still not even past the conceptual phase yet.

http://www.polygon.com/2014/1/27/5345342/gears-of-war-xbox-one-microsoft-epic-games-rod-fergusson

This explains nothing. GOWJ was a prequel that had very little to do with the GOW trilogy story wise.

All he said was he was going to modify the story of GOW to make sure it works for GOW4.


Dude...you know the trilogy is over right? They need to expand the universe. Fergusson and Blesinski were behind the Gears trilogy and it will be modified. 


Yea, and thats what his statement means. That doesn't prove anything about GOWJ's campaign being bad.



S.T.A.G.E. on 04 July 2014
Dark Chaos said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Dude...you know the trilogy is over right? They need to expand the universe. Fergusson and Blesinski were behind the Gears trilogy and it will be modified. 


Yea, and thats what his statement means. That doesn't prove anything about GOWJ's campaign being bad.


I'm done here. I'm just glad there is another Gears game with the main producer of Gears outside of Cliff. You'll see that Cliff isn't needed to make a great Gears game. A story can be weaved without him. 



Dark Chaos on 04 July 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Dark Chaos said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Dude...you know the trilogy is over right? They need to expand the universe. Fergusson and Blesinski were behind the Gears trilogy and it will be modified. 


Yea, and thats what his statement means. That doesn't prove anything about GOWJ's campaign being bad.


I'm done here. I'm just glad there is another Gears game with the main producer of Gears outside of Cliff.

Well you stated that GOWJ sold poorily due to its campain and couldn't find evidence to back it up.  Thats all that I was trying to get at. 



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S.T.A.G.E. on 04 July 2014
Dark Chaos said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


I'm done here. I'm just glad there is another Gears game with the main producer of Gears outside of Cliff.

Well you stated that GOWJ sold poorily due to its campain and couldn't find evidence to back it up.  Thats all that I was trying to get at. 

I never said that it sold poorly due to its campaign. You're just trying to prolong this tired debate. I said I thought its SP was bad and there were still people playing the multiplayer. I watch Gold Glove play the game sometimes, but yeah, this is done.



Veknoid_Outcast on 04 July 2014
Angelus said:
Really Chaos, don't bother. Nobody ever won an argument with a wall.

People can call him overrated, or a jackass, say he's full of himself, or whatever.....but it doesn't change the fact. And fact is, he's a great developer who's played a key role in making some very successful games.

I agree. He comes off, at times, like a jackass with a big head and an even bigger mouth, but there's no denying his skill as a game designer.



Dark Chaos on 04 July 2014
Veknoid_Outcast said:
Angelus said:
Really Chaos, don't bother. Nobody ever won an argument with a wall.

People can call him overrated, or a jackass, say he's full of himself, or whatever.....but it doesn't change the fact. And fact is, he's a great developer who's played a key role in making some very successful games.

I agree. He comes off, at times, like a jackass with a big head and an even bigger mouth, but there's no denying his skill as a game designer.


Yup agree to both posts. He can be cocky and a hyprocrite at times but his games are great and strike a great balance between competitive and casual gamers alike.



Tamron on 04 July 2014
Dark Chaos said:
Tamron said:
Dark Chaos said:

Thing is I'm not using my opinion to justify Cliffy B's success. 

According to you Cliffy B isn't successfull because you don't like his games. Why would Cliffy care if you don't like his games? Doesn't make him any less successfull.

On the other hand, I'm arguing Cliffy is successfull based on sales, critical receptions, profits, legacy, his franchises he helped develop.


Is a business successfull based on opinions or profit??


according to me?  please do post where i suggested in any way that cliffy b is not successful. 

I simply do not like Gears of war, unreal tournament i own all of on steam, and the original pc games which i bought on release day for all three, same for unreal championship on the original xbox. I actually still have a press-only disk pressing of unreal XMP, too.

Liking the games a person has a hand in making, and holding an opinion of said person are two different things, I own, enjoy and play a PS4 despite thinking Sony is the shittest japanese electronics company still in operation.
Tamron said:
and all 4 of his fans cheered at once.

A successfull person doesn't have only 4 fans.

It's called a joke, besides, number of fans and a persons success don't go hand in hand, take phil fish for example.



Dark Chaos on 04 July 2014
Tamron said:
Dark Chaos said:
Tamron said:
and all 4 of his fans cheered at once.

A successfull person doesn't have only 4 fans.

It's called a joke, besides, number of fans and a persons success don't go hand in hand, take phil fish for example.

You're implying he has very little fans when thats clearly not true.

Also, if its a joke, I missed the part where its funny. Care to explain it?


Phil Fish has made what one indie game? Hard to call him successfull when hes had just one moderate hit.