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Blood_Tears on 25 June 2014
Danman27 said:
First off, I don't consider what they did a price drop. They just unbundled the kinnect.
Second. I've gotta say that I was very surprised about the xbox one's sales this week. I was expecting 80,000 this week.


Then you would be wrong.



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Danman27 on 25 June 2014
Blood_Tears said:
Danman27 said:
First off, I don't consider what they did a price drop. They just unbundled the kinnect.
Second. I've gotta say that I was very surprised about the xbox one's sales this week. I was expecting 80,000 this week.


Then you would be wrong.


How am I wrong? They unbundled the kinnect, and sold it at a lower price. That's not a price drop. 
So let's look at a comparable situation. Say you want to buy a restaurant. If you buy it furnished completely, it will cost $100,000. If you buy it without any, it will cost $80,000. You also price it out to find that it will cost 20,000 to furnish it if you don't pay the 100,000. You're not really getting the building at a lower price... 



Blood_Tears on 25 June 2014
Danman27 said:
Blood_Tears said:
Danman27 said:
First off, I don't consider what they did a price drop. They just unbundled the kinnect.
Second. I've gotta say that I was very surprised about the xbox one's sales this week. I was expecting 80,000 this week.


Then you would be wrong.


How am I wrong? They unbundled the kinnect, and sold it at a lower price. That's not a price drop. 
So let's look at a comparable situation. Say you want to buy a restaurant. If you buy it furnished completely, it will cost $100,000. If you buy it without any, it will cost $80,000. You also price it out to find that it will cost 20,000 to furnish it if you don't pay the 100,000. You're not really getting the building at a lower price... 

LOL   The official entry point into an X1 was $499.99. Now it's $399.99. You can try and spin it with analogies all you want. In the end you would be wrong and only sound like a bad MS PR statement from NPD.



Danman27 on 25 June 2014
Blood_Tears said:
Danman27 said:
Blood_Tears said:
Danman27 said:
First off, I don't consider what they did a price drop. They just unbundled the kinnect.
Second. I've gotta say that I was very surprised about the xbox one's sales this week. I was expecting 80,000 this week.


Then you would be wrong.


How am I wrong? They unbundled the kinnect, and sold it at a lower price. That's not a price drop. 
So let's look at a comparable situation. Say you want to buy a restaurant. If you buy it furnished completely, it will cost $100,000. If you buy it without any, it will cost $80,000. You also price it out to find that it will cost 20,000 to furnish it if you don't pay the 100,000. You're not really getting the building at a lower price... 

LOL   The official entry point into an X1 was $499.99. Now it's $399.99. You can try and spin it with analogies all you want. In the end you would be wrong and only sound like a bad MS PR statement from NPD.


I find it hilarious that you don't understand such a simple idea. the xbox one costs $400. The xbox one AND the kinnect cost $500. 



Blood_Tears on 25 June 2014
Danman27 said:
Blood_Tears said:
Danman27 said:
Blood_Tears said:
Danman27 said:
First off, I don't consider what they did a price drop. They just unbundled the kinnect.
Second. I've gotta say that I was very surprised about the xbox one's sales this week. I was expecting 80,000 this week.


Then you would be wrong.


How am I wrong? They unbundled the kinnect, and sold it at a lower price. That's not a price drop. 
So let's look at a comparable situation. Say you want to buy a restaurant. If you buy it furnished completely, it will cost $100,000. If you buy it without any, it will cost $80,000. You also price it out to find that it will cost 20,000 to furnish it if you don't pay the 100,000. You're not really getting the building at a lower price... 

LOL   The official entry point into an X1 was $499.99. Now it's $399.99. You can try and spin it with analogies all you want. In the end you would be wrong and only sound like a bad MS PR statement from NPD.


I find it hilarious that you don't understand such a simple idea. the xbox one costs $400. The xbox one AND the kinnect cost $500. 

Oh I understand it. It's just you don't understand numbers. They dropped the kinect so they could drop the price. It's a price drop. I get the fact that you don't want to admit it. But who cares?  I and most likely quite a few others here consider it a price drop. I can't make it anymore clearer then that. If you don't see it...then whatever, no matter. Enjoy your $80,000 restaurant  and good day.



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Danman27 on 25 June 2014
Blood_Tears said:
Danman27 said:
Blood_Tears said:
Danman27 said:
Blood_Tears said:
Danman27 said:
First off, I don't consider what they did a price drop. They just unbundled the kinnect.
Second. I've gotta say that I was very surprised about the xbox one's sales this week. I was expecting 80,000 this week.


Then you would be wrong.


How am I wrong? They unbundled the kinnect, and sold it at a lower price. That's not a price drop. 
So let's look at a comparable situation. Say you want to buy a restaurant. If you buy it furnished completely, it will cost $100,000. If you buy it without any, it will cost $80,000. You also price it out to find that it will cost 20,000 to furnish it if you don't pay the 100,000. You're not really getting the building at a lower price... 

LOL   The official entry point into an X1 was $499.99. Now it's $399.99. You can try and spin it with analogies all you want. In the end you would be wrong and only sound like a bad MS PR statement from NPD.


I find it hilarious that you don't understand such a simple idea. the xbox one costs $400. The xbox one AND the kinnect cost $500. 

Oh I understand it. It's just you don't understand numbers. They dropped the kinect so they could drop the price. It's a price drop. I get the fact that you don't want to admit it. But who cares?  I and most likely quite a few others here consider it a price drop. I can't make it anymore clearer then that. If you don't see it...then whatever, no matter. Enjoy your $80,000 restaurant  and good day.

Well, I guess consumers don't see it as a price drop, considering that sales were barely effected. You're now buying one thing instead of two. That's the difference. I'm running out of ways to illistrate how this isn't a price drop though. 



OfficerRaichu15 on 25 June 2014
Danman27 said:
Blood_Tears said:
Danman27 said:
Blood_Tears said:
Danman27 said:
Blood_Tears said:
Danman27 said:
First off, I don't consider what they did a price drop. They just unbundled the kinnect.
Second. I've gotta say that I was very surprised about the xbox one's sales this week. I was expecting 80,000 this week.


Then you would be wrong.


How am I wrong? They unbundled the kinnect, and sold it at a lower price. That's not a price drop. 
So let's look at a comparable situation. Say you want to buy a restaurant. If you buy it furnished completely, it will cost $100,000. If you buy it without any, it will cost $80,000. You also price it out to find that it will cost 20,000 to furnish it if you don't pay the 100,000. You're not really getting the building at a lower price... 

LOL   The official entry point into an X1 was $499.99. Now it's $399.99. You can try and spin it with analogies all you want. In the end you would be wrong and only sound like a bad MS PR statement from NPD.


I find it hilarious that you don't understand such a simple idea. the xbox one costs $400. The xbox one AND the kinnect cost $500. 

Oh I understand it. It's just you don't understand numbers. They dropped the kinect so they could drop the price. It's a price drop. I get the fact that you don't want to admit it. But who cares?  I and most likely quite a few others here consider it a price drop. I can't make it anymore clearer then that. If you don't see it...then whatever, no matter. Enjoy your $80,000 restaurant  and good day.

Well, I guess consumers don't see it as a price drop, considering that sales were barely effected. You're now buying one thing instead of two. That's the difference. I'm running out of ways to illistrate how this isn't a price drop though. 

STAHP!!

we get it you dont think its a price cut but its less than before so it is a price cut OK!



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Blood_Tears on 25 June 2014
Danman27 said:


 

Oh I understand it. It's just you don't understand numbers. They dropped the kinect so they could drop the price. It's a price drop. I get the fact that you don't want to admit it. But who cares?  I and most likely quite a few others here consider it a price drop. I can't make it anymore clearer then that. If you don't see it...then whatever, no matter. Enjoy your $80,000 restaurant  and good day.

Well, I guess consumers don't see it as a price drop, considering that sales were barely effected. You're now buying one thing instead of two. That's the difference. I'm running out of ways to illistrate how this isn't a price drop though. 

Barely affected?  It nearly doubled in weekly sales which is great for June and going into the summer. Not to mention with all the retailer discounts MS had on over the last few months people who were planning to buy in June likely bought earlier with TF bundle discounts. It's been one week so I wouldn't write off the price drop just yet.



OfficerRaichu15 on 25 June 2014
Blood_Tears said:
Danman27 said:


 

 

Oh I understand it. It's just you don't understand numbers. They dropped the kinect so they could drop the price. It's a price drop. I get the fact that you don't want to admit it. But who cares?  I and most likely quite a few others here consider it a price drop. I can't make it anymore clearer then that. If you don't see it...then whatever, no matter. Enjoy your $80,000 restaurant  and good day.

Well, I guess consumers don't see it as a price drop, considering that sales were barely effected. You're now buying one thing instead of two. That's the difference. I'm running out of ways to illistrate how this isn't a price drop though. 

Barely affected?  It nearly doubled in weekly sales which is great for June and going into the summer. Not to mention with all the retailer discounts MS had on over the last few months people who were planning to buy in June likely bought earlier with TF bundle discounts. It's been one week so I wouldn't write off the price drop just yet.

it helped but lots of people were hoping for over 100k(optimistic folk)



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Raichu's First Series:

First RPG?

First Fighter?

First Racer?

First Shooter?

First MMO?

First Horror?

Official Ni No Kuni Fanboy:

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Game Beaten: 2 times almost

Times I got teary during some scenes: 3

Dark_Lord_2008 on 25 June 2014

Lack of exclusive games, lack of features that differentiate 8th generation from 7th generation, $250+ may not be a good price point to buy a 8th generation console. Wait a year or two and the games will arrive and the console will become cheaper.