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SubiyaCryolite on 23 June 2014
KingdomHeartsFan said:

Is there anyone that expected a super upgraded PC port for Far Cry 4?  I mean most of the sales are from console so why should PC get any extra treatment?  Especially considering most people's PCs are not super high end like some of the hardcore gamers.


Fary Cry 2 and Far Cry 3 were significantly better on PC. They also pushed fancy Direct X 10 and 11 fairly early on in the cycle.



I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine

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Dusk on 23 June 2014
swbf2lord said:

(First off, if this has already been discussed, my bad. I searched but didn't see anything)

 

Because we develop [Far Cry] on the PC, you’ve never really seen on console the ultra-high PC version before,” said Mr. Hutchinson, “So even out of the box, even day one, we just stuck the code on the new consoles and we were able to dial it all the way up. So as a console player you’re already getting by far the best version we can ship.”

 

There are a few web articles on this, like this link:

 

http://www.kitguru.net/gaming/anton-shilov/ubisoft-far-cry-4-with-ultra-high-settings-will-look-the-same-on-pc-ps4-and-xb1/

 

Ubisoft just dropped majorly in my preference. Maybe lower than EA. What are your thoughts on this? I've always felt Ubisoft butchered any PC releases they made, and released sub-par ports, but I'd be interested in the rest of the community's views. I haven't played Watch Dogs yet.

 

 

Updated:

 

Frostbite 3 dev's comments on Ubisoft's making Far Cry 4 the same across platforms.

 

http://www.gamepur.com/news/15154-frostbite-dev-ubisofts-far-cry-4-ps4xbox-one-equivalent-pc-ultra-setting-cl.html

Yeah... I'm calling BS. Here's why. They said the same about Watch Dogs. The only reason that they looked the same was because the developers went out of their way to downgrad the PC version. Even causing worse performance and vistual downgrades. All locked by E3 mode lol. 

The idea that a console can legitimately keep with with a high end PC is just ridiculous. You can't magically create a console with the same amount of power as an ultra gaming PC for half the price of a high end video card. There is also the fact that PC's go through generational leaps very frequently, about every 6 months to a year. That means that even if the PS4 and X1 came out with the most power they possibly could, comparible to a high end PC, at this point in their life cycle they would already be in the process of being left behind because of how quickly the tech moves for PC's. 

Don't kid yourself. None of the new consoles are anywhere near on par with a high end PC. They are good for what they are, but they just cannot compare to a $2500 PC. That is all there is to it. 



Gotta figure out how to set these up lol.

swbf2lord on 23 June 2014
Dusk said:
swbf2lord said:

(First off, if this has already been discussed, my bad. I searched but didn't see anything)

 

Because we develop [Far Cry] on the PC, you’ve never really seen on console the ultra-high PC version before,” said Mr. Hutchinson, “So even out of the box, even day one, we just stuck the code on the new consoles and we were able to dial it all the way up. So as a console player you’re already getting by far the best version we can ship.”

 

There are a few web articles on this, like this link:

 

http://www.kitguru.net/gaming/anton-shilov/ubisoft-far-cry-4-with-ultra-high-settings-will-look-the-same-on-pc-ps4-and-xb1/

 

Ubisoft just dropped majorly in my preference. Maybe lower than EA. What are your thoughts on this? I've always felt Ubisoft butchered any PC releases they made, and released sub-par ports, but I'd be interested in the rest of the community's views. I haven't played Watch Dogs yet.

 

 

Updated:

 

Frostbite 3 dev's comments on Ubisoft's making Far Cry 4 the same across platforms.

 

http://www.gamepur.com/news/15154-frostbite-dev-ubisofts-far-cry-4-ps4xbox-one-equivalent-pc-ultra-setting-cl.html

Yeah... I'm calling BS. Here's why. They said the same about Watch Dogs. The only reason that they looked the same was because the developers went out of their way to downgrad the PC version. Even causing worse performance and vistual downgrades. All locked by E3 mode lol. 

The idea that a console can legitimately keep with with a high end PC is just ridiculous. You can't magically create a console with the same amount of power as an ultra gaming PC for half the price of a high end video card. There is also the fact that PC's go through generational leaps very frequently, about every 6 months to a year. That means that even if the PS4 and X1 came out with the most power they possibly could, comparible to a high end PC, at this point in their life cycle they would already be in the process of being left behind because of how quickly the tech moves for PC's. 

Don't kid yourself. None of the new consoles are anywhere near on par with a high end PC. They are good for what they are, but they just cannot compare to a $2500 PC. That is all there is to it. 


Umm.. yeah? That's what I've been saying. I'm just disappointed they aren't pushing the PC, and are gimping the version.



Dusk on 23 June 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
mornelithe said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
mornelithe said:
Gimped PC version? Pass.


LOL yeah..sure. Pass on a great game because it is at parity with console versions? How shallow. I am sure more gameplay will further entice you to invest.

Nope.  I don't have to latch onto every game that's launched, like a heroin addict, just 'cause.  I have vast options in that regard.  I will not invest in any IP that does this.  It's not shallow to expect standards in gaming to rise, as new hardware/resources become available.  And when devs outright admit to such tactics, it makes it easier for me to do something else.

I may end up getting it, months/years after release after the modders have gotten their hands on it and unfucked whatever bullshit Ubisoft has done to the game though, but only on a sale, when it's ridiculously inexpensive.  Or I may just borrow it from someone, just to ensure they get as little as possible for it.  Or hell, I could even wait until the day I upgrade my GPU, I got a copy of Far Cry 3 included w/ the last one :)


Far Cry's standards have risen. There would have been no difference but for light and shadowing improvements and slightly better graphics, but if Ubisoft says the game is playing on par with ultra on consoles that a testament to the power behind the consoles. Most PC gamers wont even be able to enjoy ultra settings, but only a select few will. Far Cry 3 set the bar and I bet four will follow through. The gameplay is what matters and luckily for us console gamers we finally get a game on par with you guys, especially when we are where the bulk of the sales are coming from. PC gamers have a high level of expectation, but very little that is exclusive to use the power that you guys posess. When squeeze every bit of juice out of consoles people marvel.Why might you ask? Limit the tech and increase the goal to work itself around hardware and you'll see something you havent out of consoles. Far Cry 4 might just blow us all away and no one would've been the wiser because PC's just have to be that superior.

If there is parity between them, it's not going to be because of the power prowess of the consoles, it will be because the development on the PC is borked. I'm not saying it's not going to look good, but the topic of this is it will look the same on consoles as PC on ultra settings. If that is the case it's going to be a similar situation as with Watch Dogs on PC. Gameplay is an entirely different topic. But as the gameplay for all of them will be the same it's quite moot. 



Gotta figure out how to set these up lol.

S.T.A.G.E. on 23 June 2014
mornelithe said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Far Cry's standards have risen. There would have been no difference but for light and shadowing improvements and slightly better graphics, but if Ubisoft says the game is playing on par with ultra on consoles that a testament to the power behind the consoles. Most PC gamers wont even be able to enjoy ultra settings, but only a select few will. Far Cry 3 set the bar and I bet four will follow through. The gameplay is what matters and luckily for us console gamers we finally get a game on par with you guys, especially when we are where the bulk of the sales are coming from. PC gamers have a high level of expectation, but very little that is exclusive to use the power that you guys posess. When squeeze every bit of juice out of consoles people marvel.Why might you ask? Limit the tech and increase the goal to work itself around hardware and you'll see something you havent out of consoles. Far Cry 4 might just blow us all away and no one would've been the wiser because PC's just have to be that superior.


Do you program/design for Ubisoft?  Then I don't think you're in any position, whatsoever, to provide an informed assessment of Ubisoft's standards and practices.  Additionally, a game being purposefully gimped to achieve parity across all hardware (regardless of what's superior and what isn't), doesn't constitute 'on par' with a PC Game that employs the bells and whistles technology have afforded in the past 8 years.  Which is quite clearly demonstrated, by Watch Dogs.

I am glad that the new gen is bringing new experiences to the console, I really am.  But, I'm not so much of a fanboy that I can't be disenfranchised by what is clearly an impedement to future games design.  And we wonder why the beginning of new gens have lackluster titles, why it takes forever for developers to wrap their heads around new hardware; spend so much time with static hardware, and the world of technology passes you right by.

And clearly, PC's don't HAVE to be that superior, but they should be.  Not to assuage the anger of those who've spent the money on their rigs, but because PC should be the test bed, it's where they can go apeshit with their resource needs.  Call it 'preferential' treatment for PC's if you so desire, I however, prefer to look at it as devs learning how to utilize that power, in advance of new gens.  And you're more than welcome to disagree with me, I'm really not bothered by it.  Clearly the tide of public opinion is against me on this, but that honestly matters little.  I stick to my principles, especially when I see something that could damage the industry down the road.


Entitlement is one hell of a thing. PC gamers aren't entitled to a thing unless games are specifically made for their console. Just goes to show your guys mentality and it is truly shallow. 



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mornelithe on 23 June 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Entitlement is one hell of a thing. PC gamers aren't entitled to a thing unless games are specifically made for their console. Just goes to show your guys mentality and it is truly shallow. 

Actually, every consumer is entitled to a certain expectation in anything they purchase.  This is how consumers are supposed to keep major corporations in check.  It hasn't translated very well into the gaming sphere yet, though.  You can label me, or 'us' (I'm one person, not a collective and you can't claim that even a fraction of a percent of PC owners have responded in this thread), however you wish.  It makes little difference, other than to make you look like you're incapable of discussing this without resorting to name calling.



Danman27 on 23 June 2014

I'll still probably get it for PC, but not it's more of a debate.



S.T.A.G.E. on 23 June 2014
Dusk said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
mornelithe said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
mornelithe said:
Gimped PC version? Pass.


LOL yeah..sure. Pass on a great game because it is at parity with console versions? How shallow. I am sure more gameplay will further entice you to invest.

Nope.  I don't have to latch onto every game that's launched, like a heroin addict, just 'cause.  I have vast options in that regard.  I will not invest in any IP that does this.  It's not shallow to expect standards in gaming to rise, as new hardware/resources become available.  And when devs outright admit to such tactics, it makes it easier for me to do something else.

I may end up getting it, months/years after release after the modders have gotten their hands on it and unfucked whatever bullshit Ubisoft has done to the game though, but only on a sale, when it's ridiculously inexpensive.  Or I may just borrow it from someone, just to ensure they get as little as possible for it.  Or hell, I could even wait until the day I upgrade my GPU, I got a copy of Far Cry 3 included w/ the last one :)


Far Cry's standards have risen. There would have been no difference but for light and shadowing improvements and slightly better graphics, but if Ubisoft says the game is playing on par with ultra on consoles that a testament to the power behind the consoles. Most PC gamers wont even be able to enjoy ultra settings, but only a select few will. Far Cry 3 set the bar and I bet four will follow through. The gameplay is what matters and luckily for us console gamers we finally get a game on par with you guys, especially when we are where the bulk of the sales are coming from. PC gamers have a high level of expectation, but very little that is exclusive to use the power that you guys posess. When squeeze every bit of juice out of consoles people marvel.Why might you ask? Limit the tech and increase the goal to work itself around hardware and you'll see something you havent out of consoles. Far Cry 4 might just blow us all away and no one would've been the wiser because PC's just have to be that superior.

If there is parity between them, it's not going to be because of the power prowess of the consoles, it will be because the development on the PC is borked. I'm not saying it's not going to looks good, but the topic of this is it will look the same on consoles as PC on ultra settings. If that is the case it's going to be a similar situation as with Watch Dogs on PC. Gameplay is an entirely different topic. But as the gameplay for all of them will be the same it's quite moot. 


PC chips come and go, but the games vary greatly in quality because of the lack of unity and limited budgets of teams who focus solely on that hardware. Wherever the return is greatest one can take the most risk.



Dusk on 23 June 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Dusk said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
mornelithe said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
mornelithe said:
Gimped PC version? Pass.


LOL yeah..sure. Pass on a great game because it is at parity with console versions? How shallow. I am sure more gameplay will further entice you to invest.

Nope.  I don't have to latch onto every game that's launched, like a heroin addict, just 'cause.  I have vast options in that regard.  I will not invest in any IP that does this.  It's not shallow to expect standards in gaming to rise, as new hardware/resources become available.  And when devs outright admit to such tactics, it makes it easier for me to do something else.

I may end up getting it, months/years after release after the modders have gotten their hands on it and unfucked whatever bullshit Ubisoft has done to the game though, but only on a sale, when it's ridiculously inexpensive.  Or I may just borrow it from someone, just to ensure they get as little as possible for it.  Or hell, I could even wait until the day I upgrade my GPU, I got a copy of Far Cry 3 included w/ the last one :)


Far Cry's standards have risen. There would have been no difference but for light and shadowing improvements and slightly better graphics, but if Ubisoft says the game is playing on par with ultra on consoles that a testament to the power behind the consoles. Most PC gamers wont even be able to enjoy ultra settings, but only a select few will. Far Cry 3 set the bar and I bet four will follow through. The gameplay is what matters and luckily for us console gamers we finally get a game on par with you guys, especially when we are where the bulk of the sales are coming from. PC gamers have a high level of expectation, but very little that is exclusive to use the power that you guys posess. When squeeze every bit of juice out of consoles people marvel.Why might you ask? Limit the tech and increase the goal to work itself around hardware and you'll see something you havent out of consoles. Far Cry 4 might just blow us all away and no one would've been the wiser because PC's just have to be that superior.

If there is parity between them, it's not going to be because of the power prowess of the consoles, it will be because the development on the PC is borked. I'm not saying it's not going to looks good, but the topic of this is it will look the same on consoles as PC on ultra settings. If that is the case it's going to be a similar situation as with Watch Dogs on PC. Gameplay is an entirely different topic. But as the gameplay for all of them will be the same it's quite moot. 


PC chips come and go, but the games vary greatly in quality because of the lack of unity and limited budgets of teams who focus solely on that hardware. Wherever the return is greatest one can take the most risk.

Exactly. "it's not going to be because of the power prowess of the consoles, it will be because the development on the PC is borked" 




Gotta figure out how to set these up lol.

S.T.A.G.E. on 23 June 2014
Dusk said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


PC chips come and go, but the games vary greatly in quality because of the lack of unity and limited budgets of teams who focus solely on that hardware. Wherever the return is greatest one can take the most risk.

Exactly. "it's not going to be because of the power prowess of the consoles, it will be because the development on the PC is borked" 


Question incase I am missing something. Does how high is ultra on PC?