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padib said:
Last I remember the PS3 was FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS and Assassin's Creed was nearly exclusive (until it later got announced to be multiplatform).

All 3rd parties supported Sony during its rough patch, but Nintendo gets the finger.

Anything new?

Sony got its shit together pretty fast: https://www.ubisoftgroup.com/comsite_common/en-US/images/Annual_Report_2008tcm9927542.pdf

PS3 share of Ubisoft's revenue for 04/2007 - 03/2008 (first full year after the launch window) was 20 percent.

Wii U share of Ubisoft's revenue for 04/2013 - 03/2014 (first full year after the launch window) is 3 percent.

PS3 has proven itself a good investment for Ubisoft in its first 18 months, Wii U hasn't.



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Pristine20 said:


1. Console isn't weak relatively to ps4/X1? Your fanboyism is off the charts with that one.

2. Yes, terrible network functionality relative to ps4/x1.

3.  You mean nintedno's own titles? Well, I only find FE interesting of the bunch but that one is not popular. Make no mistake, these companies are all competing no matter what they tell you.

4. No man. Yours doesn't hold water. Tekken Tag 2 on Wii U is the best version of the game. Shows how much you know huh? It even has an extra mode unavailable on the PS360 versions. They want defining experiences yet they won't buy any. Compare to early in ps3's life when it truly got crap ports like Fallout 3, Orange box, etc yet they still sold millions.

5. I'm comparing apples to apples. It's 0.22m on wii in Japan vs .43m on ps3 in Japan. Nice spin you put there. This is despite coming out on Wii a year earlier and the Wii having  triple the userbase back then.

Take your own advise and don't be such a fanboy then you may realise why business people think porting to the Wii U is a waste of money. Just because you bought one copy of a game doesn't mean it sold well.

 

1.) Calling me a fanboy for saying it's not weak is stupid on your part. I made zero comparisons, re-read what I said. You made the comparisons to the PS4/One and I did not. Ninty hater, I suggest you read the forum rules when it comes to being rude. 

2.)Why are you comparing it to Sony and Microsoft and not the original Wii Network? I bet you don't have a Wii U so such a claim is very bias on your part. You have no right to say when you have no idea. Your opinion is wrong (and I can say that here). 

3.)They aren't competing. How straight do I have to be with you? They are NOT competing. Nintendo, Sony and MS has accepted that fact. The last time Nintendo competed they got stomped, Gamecube, second strongest console of 6th generation. Xbox being the strongest. Both of these consoles got stomped by the weaker PS2. Nintendo chose a strategy in the 7th generation of fun and affordability and clearly being the overal sale winner in that generation says something. 

4.)Again, console owners do not want terrible ports. You're talking about a fighting game, which doesn't sell on Nintendo platforms in comparison to Smash Bros. My logic is more solid than yours, they want defining experiences that DO NOT remove features, including DLC. You're sticking to one game, which is your mistake here. 

5.) You tried comparing a game that sold in one region vs a game that sold in all regions. Do you not know how to read numbers? It was statistically impossible for the Wii version to outsell the PS3 version which was released in multiple regions. 

If you want some real advice (not advise, which is a completely different tense). Don't be rude with people and state your opinions as undeniable facts. When people come at you with facts don't try and reword so that the other person said something complete different. Lastly, calling someone a fanboy in anargument makes your statement completely illogical and obsolete. If you want to have another round of name calling I have a few names tossing around in my head that would get me banned. 



Perhaps someone already said it, but it sounds like an arrogant threat from Ubisoft...

"You'd better sell more consoles, or you're getting even less support from us".

Well, with Nintendo's exclusive lineup and my PC, I can just ignore Ubisoft, lol



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prayformojo said:
spemanig said:
They're basically demanding a price drop.


As they should. A $199.99 Wii-U at this point would be like sprinkling magic pixie dust on the thing. 


That would also sell the console at a loss again. Wait until the console is selling at a greater profit for this wish. $249.99 is more reasonable of a drop, but 100 off is rediculous, hell just buy a refurb from Nintendo with the same warrenty for 200 if you are that cheap



Would I buy a console without Ubisoft games, maybe even without EA games? Yes, I have a pc for that. Would I buy a console without Nintendo games? No, not in my current family position. Therefore, there are many people who really don't care what Ubisoft do. My EA games for the WII U are dirt and gather dust while I worry about scratching my Nintendo games I play them so much.

 

Ironically enough, Rayman is the only game I play on my console that is 3rd party, but I've grown sick of it since so many similar games have been released. If it had been released earlier, it would have sold more. Ubisoft's in and out and back in method has hurt the WII U more than anything else, then they preach about leaving because of bad sales. Legends was available, then it wasn't then it was then....well it was delayed until it was worthless.

 

Nintendo are becoming more and more self sufficient and I applaud them for that.



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I sort of get where he is coming from since the environment for 3rd party games is much tougher on Wii U than the other two consoles simply because of Nintendo's first party games. However, he is making a "putting the horse before the cart" argument by basically wanting Nintendo build a large install base by themselves so they can get whatever sales levels they want when they could help make that happen faster by bringing their games on to the Wii U. This is all kind strange since Ubisoft was the big 3rd party developer that was helping the Wii U build the install base it has and put in time and money in. The 6 million the Wii U has in part thanks to Ubisoft and now they sort of undermining that work.



 

cfin2987@gmail.com said:

Would I buy a console without Ubisoft games, maybe even without EA games? Yes, I have a pc for that. Would I buy a console without Nintendo games? No, not in my current family position. Therefore, there are many people who really don't care what Ubisoft do. My EA games for the WII U are dirt and gather dust while I worry about scratching my Nintendo games I play them so much.

 

Ironically enough, Rayman is the only game I play on my console that is 3rd party, but I've grown sick of it since so many similar games have been released. If it had been released earlier, it would have sold more. Ubisoft's in and out and back in method has hurt the WII U more than anything else, then they preach about leaving because of bad sales. Legends was available, then it wasn't then it was then....well it was delayed until it was worthless.

 

Nintendo are becoming more and more self sufficient and I applaud them for that.

6.3M Wii U sales in 19 months is sufficient? 



Arcturus said:
Viltgance said:
guess that means x1 wont be seeing much ubisoft either

Except that XOne owners actually buy 3rd party games.


I'd be buying 3rd party too if my 1st party line up looked like the Xone's



amak11 said:

3.)They aren't competing. How straight do I have to be with you? They are NOT competing. Nintendo, Sony and MS has accepted that fact. The last time Nintendo competed they got stomped, Gamecube, second strongest console of 6th generation. Xbox being the strongest. Both of these consoles got stomped by the weaker PS2. Nintendo chose a strategy in the 7th generation of fun and affordability and clearly being the overal sale winner in that generation says something. 

Sure Nintendo is competing with Sony and Microsoft, they are in the same market. All three try to sell home consoles and video games, don't they?

Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo are competing for their share of the console-market (hardware and software). Additionally, they are competing with other platforms for video games (PC, iOS, Android...). Additionally they compete with other entertainment venues (movies, TV, books, internet, music,...) 

There's a finite amount of time and money people want/can to spend for entertainment... video games are only a part of that budget.



padib said:
Last I remember the PS3 was FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS and Assassin's Creed was nearly exclusive (until it later got announced to be multiplatform).

All 3rd parties supported Sony during its rough patch, but Nintendo gets the finger.

Anything new?

Assassin's Creed was confirmed to not be exclusive before the PS3 even launched, so it seems that Ubisoft was branching out before Sony even hit its rough patch.  I'm also not sure how that is comparable since the Wii U has gotten two AC games, three exclusives at launch, and a decent number of other games.

Sony was also coming from a much stronger position of third party sales with the PS2, and the PS3 didn't do nearly as badly as the Wii U.  That first Assassin's Creed on the PS3 also sold more in one week than the two on Wii U have sold lifetime.  It sold more in four months than all Ubisoft software has sold on Wii U in over a year and a half.

But yeah, the third parties are just being mean to Nintendo...