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@ Grey Acumen

I am not sure Sony would have wanted the PS3 to be in the lead right from the start. The PS3 is expensive business for them more aimed at long term business. The PS3 only had to do 'good enough' like it did to built a solid core userbase.

Last quarter Sony was able to profit from strong PS2/PSP hardware sales and strong PSP, PS2, PS3 software sales. If they discontinued the PS2 they would probably have run into a huge loss (sold no PS2 hardware, less PS2 games and more costly PS3 hardware). Now the PS3 is on the brick of becoming profitable and the high profile titles are being lined-up. I expect the PS2 to be discontinued in 2009.



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madskillz said:

Sony took a huge risk on Blu Ray. They have rolled out a few formats that flopped like John Kerry, and have a history of creating formats that don't really catch fire - UMDs, ATRAC, Minidisc, BetaMax. They have more misses than hits. That said, they really, really, really pushed Blu Ray at the expense of their PS brand. They offered the features that studios wanted, and a few studios got paid to side with them. After losing to other formats, they learned from their mistakes and eeked out a victory.

But ... is it really a victory? J6P isn't interested in a $400 Blu Ray player that plays games. It won't be a real victory until Blu Ray breaks the $199 barrier. Then, folks may be interested. Right now, with few folks that have the proper equipment to view Blu Ray the way it was supposed to be viewed, it really makes no sense for folks to buy one now.

In the end, confusion will continue to drive the PS3 sales. Great job, Sony ...


 So J6P is going to be more interested in a system that fails consistently and doesn't play HD movies, all for about the same price??  You are going to see alot of PS3's sold this year, especially during the holidays.  If I'm a parent that just bought an HDTV and my kids want a game system, I'm buying a PS3.

Next holiday season will be very ugly for the 360.  Wii will continue to dominate, and PS3 will become a strong second.



It was bad in the short term for PS3 sales, giving X360 a headstart (which MS almost blew with RROD). Will it be good for PS3 sales in the long term? Perhaps, time will tell.





DMeisterJ said:
madskillz said:

Sony took a huge risk on Blu Ray. They have rolled out a few formats that flopped like John Kerry, and have a history of creating formats that don't really catch fire - UMDs, ATRAC, Minidisc, BetaMax. They have more misses than hits. That said, they really, really, really pushed Blu Ray at the expense of their PS brand. They offered the features that studios wanted, and a few studios got paid to side with them. After losing to other formats, they learned from their mistakes and eeked out a victory.

But ... is it really a victory? J6P isn't interested in a $400 Blu Ray player that plays games. It won't be a real victory until Blu Ray breaks the $199 barrier. Then, folks may be interested. Right now, with few folks that have the proper equipment to view Blu Ray the way it was supposed to be viewed, it really makes no sense for folks to buy one now.

In the end, confusion will continue to drive the PS3 sales. Great job, Sony ...


Madskillz

For someone who hates PS3 (and Sony) so much, you show so little intelligence. I'm going to put this in caps lock, since I've said this two you on two separate occasions. SONY IS NOT THE SOLE CREATOR OF BLU-RAY. THERE WERE NINE COMPANIES THAT FOUNDED IT, AND OVER 250 COMPANIES IN THE BDA. THEY DIDN'T ROLL OUT THIS FORMAT SOLELY, THERE WERE OTHER COMPANIES ALSO.

But you won't listen or care. Why should you? You picked the other horse to win, and since it's slowly (but surely) losing it's marketshare to the PS3, what can you do except accept it, but you're not doing that. You're looking more and more delusional as the days go on.


Delusional? For someone to call me a hater of the PS3 - and I own one - is delusional. Sorry, but I don't see the PS3 as being as awesome as you do. PM me your PSN name and we'll play online ... I forgot - you don't have a PS3 yet, right? 



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Magnific0 said:
@madskillz

You're absolutely right.

Man, your trolling spam makes me puke. PHAILURE. 



you guys are out of your mind if you don't think Sony would be in a better position without blu-ray right now. Sure blu-ray is starting to finally do something now, but it wouldn't have been an issue if Sony actually had momentum from the start. They could have easily launched at $400 without blu-ray, they would have taken fewer losses and gained more momentum. They could have kept backwards compatibility and not lost the faith of 3rd parties.

You guys don't think it's a big deal that many PS exclusives are going to 360?

No doubt the Wii would have done pretty well anyway, but it's also capitalizing on mistakes from Sony and Microsoft like Sony did with the PS1 over Sega and Nintendo.



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madskillz said:
DMeisterJ said:
madskillz said:

Sony took a huge risk on Blu Ray. They have rolled out a few formats that flopped like John Kerry, and have a history of creating formats that don't really catch fire - UMDs, ATRAC, Minidisc, BetaMax. They have more misses than hits. That said, they really, really, really pushed Blu Ray at the expense of their PS brand. They offered the features that studios wanted, and a few studios got paid to side with them. After losing to other formats, they learned from their mistakes and eeked out a victory.

But ... is it really a victory? J6P isn't interested in a $400 Blu Ray player that plays games. It won't be a real victory until Blu Ray breaks the $199 barrier. Then, folks may be interested. Right now, with few folks that have the proper equipment to view Blu Ray the way it was supposed to be viewed, it really makes no sense for folks to buy one now.

In the end, confusion will continue to drive the PS3 sales. Great job, Sony ...


Madskillz

For someone who hates PS3 (and Sony) so much, you show so little intelligence. I'm going to put this in caps lock, since I've said this two you on two separate occasions. SONY IS NOT THE SOLE CREATOR OF BLU-RAY. THERE WERE NINE COMPANIES THAT FOUNDED IT, AND OVER 250 COMPANIES IN THE BDA. THEY DIDN'T ROLL OUT THIS FORMAT SOLELY, THERE WERE OTHER COMPANIES ALSO.

But you won't listen or care. Why should you? You picked the other horse to win, and since it's slowly (but surely) losing it's marketshare to the PS3, what can you do except accept it, but you're not doing that. You're looking more and more delusional as the days go on.


Delusional? For someone to call me a hater of the PS3 - and I own one - is delusional. Sorry, but I don't see the PS3 as being as awesome as you do. PM me your PSN name and we'll play online ... I forgot - you don't have a PS3 yet, right? 


Why would I PM you my PSN Name...  you have thirteen PS3 games that you've yet to play.  But you don't hate sony...  lol.





From all the articles I've read, the PS3 was not the major factor in Blu-Ray winning. I don't care how many times some of you may deny that. You have to prove those articles wrong (and they are everywhere, from engadget, to kotaku, to Associated Press).

Sony made the right deals to secure studio and retail support. Toshiba didn't. HD-DVD lost shelf space and new releases. That is what lost the format. The PS3 didn't make those happen. The right people in Sony and the BDA did.

And since I'm crediting people at both Sony and the BDA, it should logically be clear I am not bashing Blu-Ray and the PS3.

Sony also turned the PS3 around by making sure games caught up to the system, and by redoing the insides of the PS3 to make it cost less, not only by getting the Bu-Ray diode costs down, but also getting a new motherboard, as the last one was apparently the most expensive part of the system.

Putting the Blu-Ray on the PS3 was not a fatal move (which I wasn't the one claiming, in case anyone thinks I did), but it was not the reason either is doing well. The PS3 lost money for two years. The Xbox lost for more, but this wasn't due to anything magical about the PS3. It was about people getting the system back on course.

In short, this reflects more one Sony as a whole than Blu-Ray and the PS3 individually.



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