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By the end of 2015, Destiny will reach...

15+ million sales 126 23.42%
 
10+ million sales 180 33.46%
 
5+ million sales 140 26.02%
 
less than 5 million sales 89 16.54%
 
Total:535
endimion said:
it's activision... it's gonna suck but it won't flop....

I hope it won't suck though but as time goes my doubt grows :D :P


no its bungie.



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fighter said:
BreedinBull said:
Destiny will do well just being the spiritual successor to Halo alone. The PvP portion of it from the IGN video handles like Halo multiplayer. The bundling, massive marketing and well deserved hype will further ensure it disappoints haters even more than Watchdogs did.


???

It's the opposite of Halo 2 and 3... Those were purely based on skill, symmetry of powers. Destiny is the opposite, you unlock weapons and powers through the SP and then show-off in PvP. And so many of Destiny's skills feel floaty and imprecise (warlock rockets, jetpacks, etc.)


There is no SP.

Its ALL online.



It might flop on the XB1 but it won't flop on the PS4.



 

The PS5 Exists. 


fighter said:
soulsamurai said:
Free to play?....Destiny doesn't require a subscribtion unless you're considering Live and PSN as a specific game sub.

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The detailed revenue model for Destiny is not fully known. Right now some modes at least do require the PSN/Live subscription and there is obviously a specific agreement between the platform providers and the publishers on sharing part of the sub fee and part of the control of the revenue models. Otheriwse how could a publisher financially sustain a persistent universe to keep evolving ?

My prediction about Destiny becoming free-to-play later simply means that the entry price will be non-existent at some point in 2016, meaning you can download the game and play at leat part of it for free.

DLC and microtransactions, microtransactions out the ass.  Essentially the free to play model with an entry fee, like the guild war mmos.  And again, both bungie and Activision have said on numerous occasions that they would not charge a subscription fee, which could change you never know, but right now there is not a shred of evidence to suggest they will implement a subscription.



Destiny is going to sell great. It's Bungie after all. I am sure after being locked into Halo for more than a decade they have a ton of unused ideas that didn't fit in the Halo Universe. It's going to move systems for both Microsoft and Sony. It's the biggest New IP launching this year and the pre orders already show it.



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theprof00 said:
fighter said:


Well, hopefully someday you'll realize I have absolutely no preference for a brand.

 

My opinion on Destiny's success is genuine. The ambition with this game was phenomenal, but it will obviously end up suffering of the duck syndrome : it can fly, it can swim, it can walk, but it isn't exceptionnal at any of them.

The graphical clarity and the universe/story seem top-notch to me. It is really the gameplay that has me worried. 

MMO : From what has been shown it is a very light MMO, and the missions are repetitive. There is still a lot of mystery surrounding the dynamic aspect of the universe such as the introduction of the Death Star, this is why I might revise my prediction end of June.

And the competitive FPS component where Bungie should have been excellent really has me worried. Destiny is taking the opposite approach to Halo 2 : unbalanced PvP.

This is the same "fighter" that has had a ken avatar forever, right?

To be brief, I feel sales2099 is more accurate about the market, and he would say he does have a preference.

I'm not saying your opinion isn't genuine, I'm just questioning how you got there.

There are a few things I agree with. The action doesn't look all that spectacular to me, but I've only seen that level where they fight in the cave or whatever. Secondly, you should be more careful about using the word mmo. MMO is nearly synonymous in online speak with MMORPG, and this game cannot be called that. Something only becomes repetitive when it becomes boring. You could call anything repetitive, CoD, BF, Dota, Marioparty.

As for the pvp, I'm sure it will be fine. Just because you can upgrade your equipment doesn't mean the pvp is going to suck. I can't even think of a single game that has a "level playing field" anymore. In fact, I'd even go so far as to say that a 'level playing field' is a relic of the quake, UT days.

My main problem with your opinion, especially with what you said above, is that you aren't critiquing the game, you are comparing the game to other things and arbitrarily deciding that it sucks. PVP not balanced the way halo 2 balanced things, therefore imbalanced. A portion of the game is all that has been shown several times, therefore repetitive.

But of course, you reserve the right to revise your prediction? Dude. Predictions are important. You can't just revise whatever you said away. Predictions are your word. You want to be cautious? Then don't make predictions....because it's stuff like this that has massaged my perception of you.


Yes, I've had the ken avatar forever. 

Yes I'm criticizing the game and I don't understand why you have an issue with it:

Is it because you disagree with me on the features and gameplay that we know of ? I stand by all my observations and I don't see what changes they can do to fix that before launch (except maybe the AI which sucks in the frequent outdoors but seems good in the rare closed environments - i'll update that end of June depending on the eventual fix and how frequently you get in-doors)

I see your point regarding the eventual MMO to MMORPG confusion and don't worry. When I say it is very light for an MMO i mean it.

Is it because of the the Bungie factor ? If yes obviously Bungie has an amazing reputation and this is why actually I do not take it into account :

They are doing things completely new to them gameplay-wise.

 The production values are Halo-esque (UI/ Universe/ Music / graphical precision etc.) but the gameplay you have to admit is absolutely not similar to Halo. So don't be surprised if I don't give in blindly because it's Bungie. 

 

And yes I reserve the right to revise my prediction by end of June.  I might just revise the numbers and I don't see what novelty/improvement might be implemented in such a short delay to change the overall perspective.

Rest assured that I i'll still predict a flop and a free-to-play model by 2016.



Xenostar said:
fighter said:


???

It's the opposite of Halo 2 and 3... Those were purely based on skill, symmetry of powers. Destiny is the opposite, you unlock weapons and powers through the SP and then show-off in PvP. And so many of Destiny's skills feel floaty and imprecise (warlock rockets, jetpacks, etc.)

There is no SP.

Its ALL online.

I don't see the contradiction with online.

Campaign would also be inaccurate.

Would SP/Co-op make you happier ?

Example - "you can't even play PvP until you've unlocked a certain level in the SP/Coop".



So... Uh... Where are all of the recent negative impressions mentioned in the op?... Still waiting to see them...



Burek said:
This just in: "Activision has read this prediction and decided to cancel the game!"

Seriously, what's with all these people wishing failure on any game. OK, I understand you don't like it. I don't like this game either, it is an FPS, which I'm not interested in, I've never been a fan of Halo, and I know with certainty that I will not buy this game.
But there will be millions of people who will, and this game will not flop even remotely. Just the opposite, I believe this game has the potential to be the biggest shooter franchise of gen8.

There are hundreds of games announced so far, and I will probably play only 10-12 of them. But never would I wish the other 88-90 to fail. It would be a horrible world and my hobby would be a horrible form of entertainment if there was no choice in games and genres for everybody willing to play.

It will be interesting to see how this stacks up against the new COD, which I think is still the sales leader in FPS right?

 

That being said, I never would have given Destiny or Halo much thought (was strictly COD), but I am loving Titanfall which certainly has the more futuristic theme.  Then again, I have too much of a life for a MMO or whatever it's called... I know Bungie says this will support those of us with lives but not sure I believe them... to what extent will it support me?   I don't want to get owned when I want to play 30 min per day on average just because I haven't logged 400 hours into the game and leveled up 1000x



fighter said:
Xenostar said:
fighter said:


???

It's the opposite of Halo 2 and 3... Those were purely based on skill, symmetry of powers. Destiny is the opposite, you unlock weapons and powers through the SP and then show-off in PvP. And so many of Destiny's skills feel floaty and imprecise (warlock rockets, jetpacks, etc.)

There is no SP.

Its ALL online.

I don't see the contradiction with online.

Campaign would also be inaccurate.

Would SP/Co-op make you happier ?

Example - "you can't even play PvP until you've unlocked a certain level in the SP/Coop".

Well your point was wrong regardless you do not only gain unlocks from exploring as you implied... You gain them from every gameplay mode you do including pvp...

 

Also... People who are actually playing the.game clai it's very skill based, for example, shots to the head causing far more damage than shots to the body