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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Up! 31st May 2014

Holy crap at the Xbox One (first time I typed its real name. Feels kinda weird..Never again!) numbers. Can't wait to see how it does when it gets the official price cut.



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jlmurph2 said:
lmaobox said:
jlmurph2 said:
MohammadBadir said:
Where's the X1 boost?


Would you buy an Xbox One at $499 less than 2 weeks before it's $399?

PS4 was at #1 @ Amazon best sellers from June all the way to Dec of last year.

The Xbone $399 version is nowhere in the top 100 list. Price is just one of the reasons why the Xbone trails the PS4.

Power is one factor. Larger multiplayer community is another. The fact that Microsoft tries to spend as little money as possible on exclusives as shown last-gen is another (People don't like being deceived twice). The PS4 is actually the only console that fixes a lot of the issues of last-gen consoles, most notably long install and loading times, something the Xbone does WORSE than the PS3.

There are lots of reasons why.


Well those are just straight lies. Xbox One $399 has been in the top 100 since it was announced and the PS3 had the absolute WORST install and load times. How could you possibly think Xbox One is slower if it is in fact faster than Xbox 360's? Which is way faster than PS3's.

Amazon is not the only place where people can see a $399 Xbox One. Gamestop, the main console retailer has already confirmed the interest for it.

I'm checking amazon's best seller's list. Not seeing the $399 version.

http://kotaku.com/installing-xbox-one-games-takes-way-too-long-1471191836

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/691088-xbox-one/67948311

"I started downloading Ryse at 10pm and went to bed, got up at 6am and it was 95 percent complete. It finished a couple hours later. Is this normal?"

Yeah, the install times on the Xbone are worse than the PS3's.



lmaobox said:
jlmurph2 said:


Well those are just straight lies. Xbox One $399 has been in the top 100 since it was announced and the PS3 had the absolute WORST install and load times. How could you possibly think Xbox One is slower if it is in fact faster than Xbox 360's? Which is way faster than PS3's.

Amazon is not the only place where people can see a $399 Xbox One. Gamestop, the main console retailer has already confirmed the interest for it.

I'm checking amazon's best seller's list. Not seeing the $399 version.

http://kotaku.com/installing-xbox-one-games-takes-way-too-long-1471191836

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/691088-xbox-one/67948311

"I started downloading Ryse at 10pm and went to bed, got up at 6am and it was 95 percent complete. It finished a couple hours later. Is this normal?"

Yeah, the install times on the Xbone are worse than the PS3's.


Then you're looking in the wrong place.

Xbox One installs do not take that long. You just posted a link that shows every Xbox One game is ready to play in under 10 minutes. Name me any PS3 retail game that you can download and play in 10 minutes? 

Plus you posted a link of a message board.

"it seems random. I am guessing it is tied to how busy live is or how much traffic on your isp is. I say this because Forza took me 6 hours to install from disc but this game took less than half an hour."



jlmurph2 said:
lmaobox said:
jlmurph2 said:


Well those are just straight lies. Xbox One $399 has been in the top 100 since it was announced and the PS3 had the absolute WORST install and load times. How could you possibly think Xbox One is slower if it is in fact faster than Xbox 360's? Which is way faster than PS3's.

Amazon is not the only place where people can see a $399 Xbox One. Gamestop, the main console retailer has already confirmed the interest for it.

I'm checking amazon's best seller's list. Not seeing the $399 version.

http://kotaku.com/installing-xbox-one-games-takes-way-too-long-1471191836

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/691088-xbox-one/67948311

"I started downloading Ryse at 10pm and went to bed, got up at 6am and it was 95 percent complete. It finished a couple hours later. Is this normal?"

Yeah, the install times on the Xbone are worse than the PS3's.


Then you're looking in the wrong place.

Xbox One installs do not take that long. You just posted a link that shows every Xbox One game is ready to play in under 10 minutes. Name me any PS3 retail game that you can download and play in 10 minutes? 

Plus you posted a link of a message board.

"it seems random. I am guessing it is tied to how busy live is or how much traffic on your isp is. I say this because Forza took me 6 hours to install from disc but this game took less than half an hour."

BUU.BU..BU.... PS3 INSTALLS IN 35 MIN WHILE XBONE INSTALLS IN ONLY 30!!! SEE, XBONE INSTALLS FASTER THAN PS3!!!

Do you know how pathetic that sounds like? The PS4 installs in less than 30 seconds.

It's like you get charged for stealing from a 4-year-old and you say, "Actually, the kid was 5-years-old" as your defense.

It's 2014 already. Microsoft just made a PS 3.5 while SONY made a real next-gen jump with their console. Consumers see that.



lmaobox said:
jlmurph2 said:
lmaobox said:
jlmurph2 said:


Well those are just straight lies. Xbox One $399 has been in the top 100 since it was announced and the PS3 had the absolute WORST install and load times. How could you possibly think Xbox One is slower if it is in fact faster than Xbox 360's? Which is way faster than PS3's.

Amazon is not the only place where people can see a $399 Xbox One. Gamestop, the main console retailer has already confirmed the interest for it.

I'm checking amazon's best seller's list. Not seeing the $399 version.

http://kotaku.com/installing-xbox-one-games-takes-way-too-long-1471191836

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/691088-xbox-one/67948311

"I started downloading Ryse at 10pm and went to bed, got up at 6am and it was 95 percent complete. It finished a couple hours later. Is this normal?"

Yeah, the install times on the Xbone are worse than the PS3's.


Then you're looking in the wrong place.

Xbox One installs do not take that long. You just posted a link that shows every Xbox One game is ready to play in under 10 minutes. Name me any PS3 retail game that you can download and play in 10 minutes? 

Plus you posted a link of a message board.

"it seems random. I am guessing it is tied to how busy live is or how much traffic on your isp is. I say this because Forza took me 6 hours to install from disc but this game took less than half an hour."

BUU.BU..BU.... PS3 INSTALLS IN 35 MIN WHILE XBONE INSTALLS IN ONLY 30!!! SEE, XBONE INSTALLS FASTER THAN PS3!!!

Do you know how pathetic that sounds like? The PS4 installs in less than 30 seconds.

It's like you get charged for stealing from a 4-year-old and you say, "Actually, the kid was 5-years-old" as your defense.

It's 2014 already. Microsoft just made a PS 3.5 while SONY made a real next-gen jump with their console. Consumers see that.


I just said 10 minutes.



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jlmurph2 said:

I just said 10 minutes.

For some lightweight indie game, probably.

For larger games, it could take 10 hours.

 

Quote Tree Trimmed - Conegamer



lmaobox said:
jlmurph2 said:


I just said 10 minutes.

For some lightweight indie game, probably.

For larger games, it could take 10 hours.


Do you actually have an Xbox One? Or are you just searching for this on forums? Because I download games all the time on MY Xbox One, big AAA and indie. If your internet is shit then by all means, say its 10 hours for YOU. But don't just say "Xbox One games take 10 hours to download". 



lmaobox said:
jlmurph2 said:

I just said 10 minutes.

For some lightweight indie game, probably.

For larger games, it could take 10 hours.


You guys better watch those quote trees. You might attract a wild Coney.



Clyde32 said:
Arkaign said:
I love it, Xb1 doing even worse than I predicted. It's no surprise the WD boost was almost all ps4. Better version, more content, higher social inertia behind ps4. Destiny will be even more of a beating for the xb1. It will be better on ps4 and everyone knows it. In fact, with bungie being far better than 343, the existence of a fantastic true heritage sci fi fps available on ps4 will end up hurting halo from a fake studio for a weak console that's getting crushed by ps4. Only the brand loyal are supporting xb1, the rest see it as a poor value for a console full of 180s, compromises, poor specs, and arrogant dismissive marketing and reveal.

This is the story of the gen. Xb1s tombstone is already etched as an also-ran. It will be remembered as a colossal blunder that surpasses even the ps3 for hubris and disappointment.

Oh and those WD sales compared to titanfall, what 3rd party will agree to a new exclusive deal with xb1? It would cost a fortune in lost sales to agree to do that. On the other hand skipping xb1 entirely becomes more and more of a no worry decision.

Maybe next gen Microsoft. After all, loyalty doesn't exist. I'm sure if they try again they won't make the same insane mistakes. The og Xbox is one of my fave consoles of all time. The 360 is great on many levels rrod notwithstanding. The xb1 is an abortion.



Hehehe more of a hater honestly. I don't even own a ps4, nor am I interested for a while yet. I am looking into picking up a U.

 

At the same time, I'm ruthlessly realistic about the facts of the industry. Reality is reality, and my personal preferences don't matter a bit. Xb1 is screwed even if I loved it. I don't, especially after owning one for a short time. So it's enjoyable to me to see the hubris and dismissive attitude towards gamers rewarded with failure.



Arkaign said:
Clyde32 said:


Hehehe more of a hater honestly. I don't even own a ps4, nor am I interested for a while yet. I am looking into picking up a U.

 

At the same time, I'm ruthlessly realistic about the facts of the industry. Reality is reality, and my personal preferences don't matter a bit. Xb1 is screwed even if I loved it. I don't, especially after owning one for a short time. So it's enjoyable to me to see the hubris and dismissive attitude towards gamers rewarded with failure.


Lol, it was just too good to pass up. I don't really like the One all that much, but I'll never let someone continually bash a console while it is down.