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ArchangelMadzz on 24 October 2017
HomokHarcos said:
Ka-pi96 said:

And how do their ticket prices compare?

Although can't really say it's that surprising. Us English seem to be lazy bums. Other leagues beat us for attendance, but we wipe the floor with them when it comes to TV revenues

MLS tickets are cheap compared to the major sports leagues in North America. It's pretty much become a college subculture as many students end up going to the games. But it's still pretty impressive that Atlanta United, who only formed this year, is able to sell out an NFL stadium.

Doesn't matter how cheap the tickets are. If I formed a band tomorrow and made it a free venue I couldn't get 71,000 people in there. 



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ArchangelMadzz on 24 October 2017

Wolves reserves holding City up for over 107 minutes. That's how you do it, Prem sides.



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ArchangelMadzz on 24 October 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Doesn't matter how cheap the tickets are. If I formed a band tomorrow and made it a free venue I couldn't get 71,000 people in there. 

It's certainly not the most important factor, but to suggest it doesn't matter at all? That's just wrong!

If you formed a new club in england and they hired out a 71,000 seater do you think they would likely fill it? 

Obviously it's an exaggeration but affordable tickets don't mean high attendances. 



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HomokHarcos on 24 October 2017
ArchangelMadzz said:
Ka-pi96 said:

It's certainly not the most important factor, but to suggest it doesn't matter at all? That's just wrong!

If you formed a new club in england and they hired out a 71,000 seater do you think they would likely fill it? 

Obviously it's an exaggeration but affordable tickets don't mean high attendances. 

As an NHL fan this is very impressive to me, because they couldn't even fill an 18,000 seat arena when they had a team but now they're having 71,000 people show up for MLS games.



ArchangelMadzz on 24 October 2017
mZuzek said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Doesn't matter how cheap the tickets are. If I formed a band tomorrow and made it a free venue I couldn't get 71,000 people in there. 

Huh. I might be misunderstanding this, as really I know nothing about it and haven't read much, but...

If you were a multimillionaire and formed a band tomorrow with some really famous dudes and advertised it to no end as the new second coming and made it a free venue, couldn't you get 71,000 people in there? I feel like it'd be a tough ask, but not impossible.

As I said I know nothing about this. I don't know how much money Atlanta United have put in there, or how many players they signed, hell I didn't even know it was a new team. But it does feel like a thing that people just got hyped about (woo new club whoa) and stuff.

I'm obviously not and Atlanda aren't a massive club so making me a multimillionaire isn't equal. 
Also a NEW club, so your solution of putting some famous dudes in there also isn't equal as that would not be a 'new' band. 

I don't see why it's so difficult to give a club credit for being an entirely new club and selling out a 71,000 seater stadium for a sport that isn't the first or second or third but 7th most popular sport in that country.

It's like filling out Old Trafford for a swimming event. 



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ArchangelMadzz on 24 October 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
Not a good result for City tonight. We got through to the next round, but playing 120 mins in a midweek game is never a good thing. Hope coming up blank for once doesn't hurt our momentum either.

We're all eagerly waiting and hoping for a draw at West Brom.

Signed, 

Everyone else in the league. 



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ArchangelMadzz on 24 October 2017
mZuzek said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

I'm obviously not and Atlanda aren't a massive club so making me a multimillionaire isn't equal. 
Also a NEW club, so your solution of putting some famous dudes in there also isn't equal as that would not be a 'new' band. 

I don't see why it's so difficult to give a club credit for being an entirely new club and selling out a 71,000 seater stadium for a sport that isn't the first or second or third but 7th most popular sport in that country.

It's like filling out Old Trafford for a swimming event. 

Because people don't like to admit anything soccer/MLS can be good.

But, how is "some famous dudes together" not a new band? Do you mean to say something like, Them Crooked Vultures for example, wasn't a new band in 2009 just because all of its members had famous projects before? That makes no sense.

You said 'some really famous dudes' I was talking about if I formed a band with some good local musicians I found. That would be the equivalent.
Unless Atlanta got some top class talent in from the Bundelsliga, Ligue 1, Serie A. Ie Really good players to match your Really famous guys. 

Your response is only valid if you didn't say 'really famous'. 



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ArchangelMadzz on 24 October 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

I'm obviously not and Atlanda aren't a massive club so making me a multimillionaire isn't equal. 
Also a NEW club, so your solution of putting some famous dudes in there also isn't equal as that would not be a 'new' band. 

I don't see why it's so difficult to give a club credit for being an entirely new club and selling out a 71,000 seater stadium for a sport that isn't the first or second or third but 7th most popular sport in that country.

It's like filling out Old Trafford for a swimming event. 

Them being a new club actually probably helps. You'd expect a new amateur non-league side would really struggle for attendances. But a new team at the top level of that sport for the country? That's bound to generate a fair bit of interest.

Again. It's not a popular sport in America. A new swimming team competing against the top swimmers in the countryisn't gonna sell out Old Trafford. 



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ArchangelMadzz on 24 October 2017
mZuzek said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

You said 'some really famous dudes' I was talking about if I formed a band with some good local musicians I found. That would be the equivalent. Unless Atlanta got some top class talent in from the Bundelsliga, Ligue 1, Serie A etc it's not a comparison. 

Your response is only valid if you didn't say 'really famous'. 

I thought about using "rockstars" but that felt like too much actually. I understand it's not top class talent from the best leagues in the world, obviously, but this certainly isn't an amateur team either, right? If they're competing in the MLS, I assume they got plenty of decent professional MLS players. Sure it might not be the best, and maybe they're still technically a worse team than most, but it's not the same as just some neighbors getting together you know.

Of course they're not amateurs but they're not at the top of an unpopular sport. 

Ka-pi96 said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

You said 'some really famous dudes' I was talking about if I formed a band with some good local musicians I found. That would be the equivalent.
Unless Atlanta got some top class talent in from the Bundelsliga, Ligue 1, Serie A. Ie Really good players to match your Really famous guys. 

Your response is only valid if you didn't say 'really famous'. 

And your example is only valid if they picked some random guys off the street and said "hey, want to be in a football team?". They didn't. They may not have any players as well known as Kaka or Pirlo like when Orlando and NYC joined the league, but the players they do have have still played plenty of football at high level leagues before, they're not random unknowns.

I never said I would find random unknowns, just that a new band selling out 71,000 would be almost unthinkable the same way a new club doing this in a sport that isn't popular is crazy and I'm genuinely baffled at the attempt to downplay this pretty great achievement? 



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ArchangelMadzz on 24 October 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Again. It's not a popular sport in America. A new swimming team competing against the top swimmers in the countryisn't gonna sell out Old Trafford. 

$200m is a lot to pay to broadcast the World Cup for a sport that's not popular...

I take it you don't understand how expensive exclusive TV rights are.. 

BT is paying 400 million dollars every year for the exclusive british broadcasting rights of the Champions league and Europa league to the UK. Population of 65 million people. 

8.3% of Americans claim that 'Soccer' is their favourite sport. A newer list shows that it is the 5th most watched sport in the US. That also includes Premier League and all the other leagues as well. So 5th puts it on the same ranking as Speedway in the UK.

Speedway. 



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