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Dark Chaos on 02 July 2014
Max King of the Wild said:
Dark Chaos said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Dark Chaos said:

For the USA Halo MCC is bigger than anything the PS4 has. Sunset Overdrive is a great looking game that appeals to gamers of all ages. Forza Horizon 2 appeals to arcade and sim racer fans. How is that niche? The holidays are where most of the years sales are done so it doesnt matter much what happens in August.

Do you really believe that Driveclub and LBP3 which is not a exclusive will outsell MS's exclusives?


Forza Horizon is not exclusive. Neither is halo. Also, do you expect SO or FH to outsell Smash or MK? I don't. But I expect XB1 to outsell wii u... So... Yeah....

Halo MCC is exclusive. Its not coming to 360

Lol. That's a strange way of wrongly looking at exclusives 

Whether its a exclusive or not doesnt matter anyways. Its still a system seller and game thats be one of the big games for the X1 this fall. Its gonna move hardware and sell a lot.

Arguing whether its a exclusive or not is pointless and something you brought up to dismiss its importance.



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DD_Bwest on 02 July 2014

Cut back on your dam quote trees people



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jnemesh on 02 July 2014
Dark Chaos said:
jnemesh said:
Dark Chaos said:
jnemesh said:
Dark Chaos said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Dark Chaos said:

For the USA Halo MCC is bigger than anything the PS4 has. Sunset Overdrive is a great looking game that appeals to gamers of all ages. Forza Horizon 2 appeals to arcade and sim racer fans. How is that niche? The holidays are where most of the years sales are done so it doesnt matter much what happens in August.

Do you really believe that Driveclub and LBP3 which is not a exclusive will outsell MS's exclusives?


Forza Horizon is not exclusive. Neither is halo. Also, do you expect SO or FH to outsell Smash or MK? I don't. But I expect XB1 to outsell wii u... So... Yeah....

Halo MCC is exclusive. Its not coming to 360


That's strange, I could have SWORN I had copies of Halo 1, 3, and  4 sitting on my shelf at home...

Yea not the same game and this has a lot of features and additions that those don't have.

Halo 2 MCC is completly different than the original Halo 2.

Also, you can't even play Halo 2 online anymore or Halo 1.


It's similar enough to the games I have already that I am not interested in the remake in the slightest.  Have fun with it if you are, though.

I guess for casual players its similar, but for most fans its a completely different experience.

Halo 1 never had online multiplayer for console.

Halo 2 remastered maps + campaign

+ All DLC + including Halo 2 PC maps

+60fps which is  huge difference for ppl who play Halo competitively and enjoy it

+Dedicated servers which if you have played the past Halo's it sorely needed

+Halo 5 Beta

If you still think its similar than you probably never played the games past the campaign.

I know a lot of people who still haven't bought a XB1 or PS4 are starting to lean to the XB1 because of Halo MCC.

Its gonna  be a big hardware seller in the USA.


I disagree.  Great bundle of old games...but it's not going to move hardware, HALO fans ALREADY own an Xbox One.  It's not going to convince new gamers to come over to the dark side.



binary solo on 02 July 2014
prinz_valium said:
Arkaign said:
prinz_valium said:

 


hahahahahahahahahah

 

have u seen halo 5 and quantum break? possible forza 6 and crackdown 3

+ maybe even more?

 

and its not only about games.

end of 2015 will be shrink and prizecut time

the time for many "not so hardcore" xbox fans to move from 360 to xbox one

and as u know 360 outsold ps3 2:1 in the us. to make the ps4 stay ahead about 25% of 360 owner have to move to ps4 instead of xbox one.

thats not an easy no doubt achivement for sony...

were talking about the us not mainland europe or rest of the world

 

 

 

and ofc many games will play the inferior multiplats. just like many did on theire ps3s

PS4 doesn't need a shrink but it will get a price cut in 2015 too. So there is no advantage for Xb one there.

 

And ofbthe games you list only Halo 5 is going to move a lot of consoles. For all the rest they are either not all that big, or already have one release on Xb one or are unknown quantities, and Sony has plenty of games coming in 2015 too. So laundry lists are meaningless on either side because they cancel out; except for Halo and I think Halo is not quite what it once was. And Halo can only be guaranteed to sell to people who bought the original xbox.



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DonFerrari on 03 July 2014

It is strange to put having Halo 2 remastered MP is a plus listing Halo 2 on X360 server being closed since who closed the server was MS and possibly to enhance the interest in the new game. And more funny is a person saying that the game seriously needs a Dedicated Server but whenever they were praising the game the MP was perfect. What to say about the 60 fps making the perfect game better? And I had assumed that it was already 60fps, but remembered this became a trend with CoD not Halo.



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Dark Chaos on 03 July 2014
DonFerrari said:
It is strange to put having Halo 2 remastered MP is a plus listing Halo 2 on X360 server being closed since who closed the server was MS and possibly to enhance the interest in the new game. And more funny is a person saying that the game seriously needs a Dedicated Server but whenever they were praising the game the MP was perfect. What to say about the 60 fps making the perfect game better? And I had assumed that it was already 60fps, but remembered this became a trend with CoD not Halo.


It closed because of upgrades to the 360 XBL servers meaning all original XB games got shutdown. No secret plan.

It was perfect for 2004 when there was no online shooters. Times have changed for the better.

60fps makes the game smoother more realistic. Not to mention for a shooter more responsive.

 

Battlefield 4 on last gen consoles was 30fps and next gen 60fps and that was a huge difference.



DonFerrari on 03 July 2014
Dark Chaos said:
DonFerrari said:
It is strange to put having Halo 2 remastered MP is a plus listing Halo 2 on X360 server being closed since who closed the server was MS and possibly to enhance the interest in the new game. And more funny is a person saying that the game seriously needs a Dedicated Server but whenever they were praising the game the MP was perfect. What to say about the 60 fps making the perfect game better? And I had assumed that it was already 60fps, but remembered this became a trend with CoD not Halo.


It closed because of upgrades to the 360 XBL servers meaning all original XB games got shutdown. No secret plan.

It was perfect for 2004 when there was no online shooters. Times have changed for the better.

60fps makes the game smoother more realistic. Not to mention for a shooter more responsive.

 

Battlefield 4 on last gen consoles was 30fps and next gen 60fps and that was a huge difference.


Except people keep saying the game is perfect and a lot of values... because if the gameplay is the same and they just up res and fps then the game will be the same, so the game is good or not?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

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Dark Chaos on 03 July 2014
DonFerrari said:
Dark Chaos said:
DonFerrari said:
It is strange to put having Halo 2 remastered MP is a plus listing Halo 2 on X360 server being closed since who closed the server was MS and possibly to enhance the interest in the new game. And more funny is a person saying that the game seriously needs a Dedicated Server but whenever they were praising the game the MP was perfect. What to say about the 60 fps making the perfect game better? And I had assumed that it was already 60fps, but remembered this became a trend with CoD not Halo.


It closed because of upgrades to the 360 XBL servers meaning all original XB games got shutdown. No secret plan.

It was perfect for 2004 when there was no online shooters. Times have changed for the better.

60fps makes the game smoother more realistic. Not to mention for a shooter more responsive.

 

Battlefield 4 on last gen consoles was 30fps and next gen 60fps and that was a huge difference.


Except people keep saying the game is perfect and a lot of values... because if the gameplay is the same and they just up res and fps then the game will be the same, so the game is good or not?

The game was perfect when it was played on LAN. Yes it was great. Having dedicated servers will help because PVP isn't as good. 

Having 60fps will make the game even better.
TLOU is considered perfect and its still getting a upgraded version. This is the same thing.



prinz_valium on 05 July 2014
binary solo said:

PS4 doesn't need a shrink but it will get a price cut in 2015 too. So there is no advantage for Xb one there.

 

 


i was talking about die shrinks

ofc the ps4 need that and will get that ;)

 

slim version way later, becaus the ps4 is already very slim



binary solo on 05 July 2014
prinz_valium said:
binary solo said:
 

PS4 doesn't need a shrink but it will get a price cut in 2015 too. So there is no advantage for Xb one there.

 

 


i was talking about die shrinks

ofc the ps4 need that and will get that ;)

 

slim version way later, becaus the ps4 is already very slim

Oh right, of course that will happen. It's an essential precursor to a slimmer unit right? But anyway in terms of the PS4bone competition shrinkage and price cut is not a factor unless one console is going to have at least one holiday at a cheaper price. But I don;t see that Happening. Xb one might havbe a proice cut earlier in 2015, but PS4 will cut before the Holiday period kicks in.



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