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manny10032 on 05 June 2014
TheDrill said:

I understand all that, the point is it's only the beginning of the generation and currently the gap is not that great, if X1 sells good during holidays alone it can shrink that gap by 50 %.

Furthermore even with a 10 million gap at 45 million it still represens a considerable chunk, assuming 55 million for PS4, it's 45 %, almost half, so it's not that bad.


Not going to happen. It will require the PS4 to fall off a clif in terms of sales, which is not going to happen. 



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DonFerrari on 05 June 2014

What I get from latest post is that theDrill have changed from X1 will definetely pass Ps4 to X1 will keep a good marketshare not trailing much behind.

Percentages and totals may or may not matter.

At the beggining of the gen MS needs a good marketshare to keep support let's say at total 20M for ps4+x1 9m:11m will give them good support (45:55%).

At the end of the gen a total 200M with ps4 150M and X1 50M even tough the difference is 100M and marketshare is 75:25% X1 would have a big enough base to not be ignored.

But of course in both cases securing exclusives will be exponentialy harder and this will only make the gap grow bigger.
But I would say theDrill accepting it won't be easy for x1 to pass ps4 is a nice start. It just took 500 posts for him to start seeing the light while some members after hundred thousands posts still keep in denial of the truth.



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TheDrill on 05 June 2014
DonFerrari said:
What I get from latest post is that theDrill have changed from X1 will definetely pass Ps4 to X1 will keep a good marketshare not trailing much behind.

Percentages and totals may or may not matter.

At the beggining of the gen MS needs a good marketshare to keep support let's say at total 20M for ps4+x1 9m:11m will give them good support (45:55%).

At the end of the gen a total 200M with ps4 150M and X1 50M even tough the difference is 100M and marketshare is 75:25% X1 would have a big enough base to not be ignored.

But of course in both cases securing exclusives will be exponentialy harder and this will only make the gap grow bigger.
But I would say theDrill accepting it won't be easy for x1 to pass ps4 is a nice start. It just took 500 posts for him to start seeing the light while some members after hundred thousands posts still keep in denial of the truth.

 

At the time I made this prediction the difference between X1 sold and PS4 sold was actually 10 % people are laughing now telling me how I stealthy changed it later to 13 % and now it's almost 17 %, but at the time it was 10 %, and it's not unreasonable to assume that a price cut would increase sales.

I haven't expected the gap to widen that much, and I'm still skeptical about last weeks numbers, but it seems that the gap is still growing wider.

I assume that the PS4 sales will slow down, or stay the same, especailly since they decreased a bit during TitanFall sales, and seem to decrease worldide as well.

Either way, the X1 is still holding strong in US, and in the UK, especailly compared to other territories.

It outsold the Wii U worldwide, and I still think it will claim a good chunk of the marketshare in the US and the UK, it will canibalize out of the PS4 dominance, it won't be like in Europe or Japan.

How much the price cut will do will yet be seen, but X1 is still strong in USA despite being outsold by the PS4.



Aura7541 on 05 June 2014
TheDrill said:
DonFerrari said:
What I get from latest post is that theDrill have changed from X1 will definetely pass Ps4 to X1 will keep a good marketshare not trailing much behind.

Percentages and totals may or may not matter.

At the beggining of the gen MS needs a good marketshare to keep support let's say at total 20M for ps4+x1 9m:11m will give them good support (45:55%).

At the end of the gen a total 200M with ps4 150M and X1 50M even tough the difference is 100M and marketshare is 75:25% X1 would have a big enough base to not be ignored.

But of course in both cases securing exclusives will be exponentialy harder and this will only make the gap grow bigger.
But I would say theDrill accepting it won't be easy for x1 to pass ps4 is a nice start. It just took 500 posts for him to start seeing the light while some members after hundred thousands posts still keep in denial of the truth.

 

At the time I made this prediction the difference between X1 sold and PS4 sold was actually 10 % people are laughing now telling me how I stealthy changed it later to 13 % and now it's almost 17 %, but at the time it was 10 %, and it's not unreasonable to assume that a price cut would increase sales.

I haven't expected the gap to widen that much, and I'm still skeptical about last weeks numbers, but it seems that the gap is still growing wider.

I assume that the PS4 sales will slow down, or stay the same, especailly since they decreased a bit during TitanFall sales, and seem to decrease worldide as well.

Either way, the X1 is still holding strong in US, and in the UK, especailly compared to other territories.

It outsold the Wii U worldwide, and I still think it will claim a good chunk of the marketshare in the US and the UK, it will canibalize out of the PS4 dominance, it won't be like in Europe or Japan.

How much the price cut will do will yet be seen, but X1 is still strong in USA despite being outsold by the PS4.

X1 fell off a cliff after Titanfall even before MS announced the Kinect-less SKU. It's April NPD was worse than any of 360's NPD's, which does not bode well. PS4 continues to rank ahead of the X1 in retailers despite the SKU announcement and at the eve of the SKU's release, it is still substantially behind the PS4.

This is reinforced by the survey mentioned earlier that 79% of the surveryers are still not interested on purchasing the X1 at $399. 43% of the 360 owners haven't bought either a PS4, X1, or Wii U yet and only 42% of those users are interested in getting an X1. Overall, only 18% of all 360 users are interested.

Long story short, X1 is not doing strong at all and will not be strong after the SKU release unless MS drastically changes their gameplan fast.



Michelasso on 05 June 2014

All I see is that the week of Watch Dogs, the first blockbuster after launch, the Americans bought the PS4 and not the XB1. The PS4 outsold the XB1 nearly 3 to 1 in USA, more than 6 to 1 in Europe. Just wait for Destiny and the relative gap will get even higher.



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Experimental42 on 05 June 2014

The gap is killing the Xbone. No one wants an inferior version of a multiplat that they can't play with their friends because the odds are in favor of their friends having the PS4.



riecsou on 05 June 2014
TheDrill said:

At the time I made this prediction the difference between X1 sold and PS4 sold was actually 10 % people are laughing now telling me how I stealthy changed it later to 13 % and now it's almost 17 %, but at the time it was 10 %, and it's not unreasonable to assume that a price cut would increase sales.

I haven't expected the gap to widen that much, and I'm still skeptical about last weeks numbers, but it seems that the gap is still growing wider.

I assume that the PS4 sales will slow down, or stay the same, especailly since they decreased a bit during TitanFall sales, and seem to decrease worldide as well.

Either way, the X1 is still holding strong in US, and in the UK, especailly compared to other territories.

It outsold the Wii U worldwide, and I still think it will claim a good chunk of the marketshare in the US and the UK, it will canibalize out of the PS4 dominance, it won't be like in Europe or Japan.

How much the price cut will do will yet be seen, but X1 is still strong in USA despite being outsold by the PS4.

And when you told the difference was 10%, people keep telling you that there would be adjustments, but you just decided to ignore them. You got warned again and again that adjustments were coming and after those adjustments the gap would be closer to 20%.

Even after April NPD, you keep saying NPD is not accurate but VGC is. And then you went very funny with posting yourself as a credible person for having a master in Computer Science...

All you had to do is play the wait and see. And even now you are still spinning messages... Do yourself a favor and just play "the wait and see", all your arguments have been proved to be bad arguments...



BeElite on 05 June 2014
TheDrill said:

Either way, the X1 is still holding strong in US, and in the UK, especailly compared to other territories.

 

Latest week NA sales.

PS4 76,845 
X1 12,270

LOL yahh you really hit that one out of the ball park.



Experimental42 on 05 June 2014

You listed the EU sales, not NA?



Nicklesbe on 05 June 2014

Hey guess what Loadout is coming to ps4 as a console exclusive. That means ps4 now has more f2p exclusive games(meaning absolutely free no Ps+ required) comming than Xb1 has games.. That's going to substantially increase demand for ps4 before e3 even happens. So you can count on that gap increasing every month for the rest of this year.



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