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sales2099 on 09 May 2014
Porcupeth said:
sales2099 said:

KI is also free to download and $20 for all fighters. Exclusivity has nothing to do with it. Titanfall is a system seller and it is hard to deny that Xbox gamers sue it as a differentiating point against PS4. While not exclusive, it clearly has more pull and relevance then any of the real exclusives I listed as well.


If it's not an exclusive then it has no pull

And infamous increased PS4 weekly sales more than TF

I can play TF just fine on my PC. Don't need a XB1 for that.

Until SO is out, XB1 has 0 exclusives released in 2014. "Where the games are" <- lol.

"If it's not an exclusive then it has no pull"

And here lies the #1 problem I have with PS fans. A multiplat on Xbox, while not on PS, clearly sells millions and consoles itself. But is it allowed in proper discussion? Does it have a place in 1 vs 1 console comparisons? Does it not differentiate one console over another? Nope......according to people just. like. you., it doesn't count because it was available somewhere else, despite its obvious impact.

I would argue increased PS4 shipments sold more PS4's then anything ;)

It doesn't matter that you can play Titanfall on PC. What you don't realize that 1.6 million and counting people decided to play it on X1, and many of them bought the console for the game. I know karazzzy right?

Dam right X1 has 0 exclusives in 2014 so far, on that we agree and can't deny. Yet somehow has a game, not on PS4, with far more pull and relevance then any exclusive PS4 currently has out. That IMO is more embarassing. It isn't even a MS exclusive or 1st party IP and it has more relevance ;)



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Porcupeth on 09 May 2014
Wright said:
Porcupeth said:


If it's not an exclusive then it has no pull

And infamous increased PS4 weekly sales more than TF

I can play TF just fine on my PC. Don't need a XB1 for that.

Until SO is out, XB1 has 0 exclusives released in 2014. "Where the games are" <- lol.


Kinect Sports Rival released on 2014. Please don't talk without knowing facts.


and clearly nobody cares... we even forget it exists.



Wright on 09 May 2014
Porcupeth said:
Wright said:


Kinect Sports Rival released on 2014. Please don't talk without knowing facts.


and clearly nobody cares... we even forget it exists.


Kinect fans care. Please don't generalize.



Kratos on 09 May 2014
sales2099 said:
Porcupeth said:
sales2099 said:
 

KI is also free to download and $20 for all fighters. Exclusivity has nothing to do with it. Titanfall is a system seller and it is hard to deny that Xbox gamers sue it as a differentiating point against PS4. While not exclusive, it clearly has more pull and relevance then any of the real exclusives I listed as well.


If it's not an exclusive then it has no pull

And infamous increased PS4 weekly sales more than TF

I can play TF just fine on my PC. Don't need a XB1 for that.

Until SO is out, XB1 has 0 exclusives released in 2014. "Where the games are" <- lol.

"If it's not an exclusive then it has no pull"

And here lies the #1 problem I have with PS fans. A multiplat on Xbox, while not on PS, clearly sells millions and consoles itself. But is it allowed in proper discussion? Does it have a place in 1 vs 1 console comparisons? Does it not differentiate one console over another? Nope......according to people just. like. you., it doesn't count because it was available somewhere else, despite its obvious impact.

I would argue increased PS4 shipments sold more PS4's then anything ;)

It doesn't matter that you can play Titanfall on PC. What you don't realize that 1.6 million and counting people decided to play it on X1, and many of them bought the console for the game. I know karazzzy right?

Dam right X1 has 0 exclusives in 2014 so far, on that we agree and can't deny. Yet somehow has a game, not on PS4, with far more pull and relevance then any exclusive PS4 currently has out. That IMO is more embarassing. It isn't even a MS exclusive or 1st party IP and it has more relevance ;)


Stop generalizing PS Fans please. We are not all the same.



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xxchachaXX on 09 May 2014
DonFerrari said:
MB1025 said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
" On Sony's side we have...Last of Us remake? :/ "

you got to be fucking kidding me


Maybe this has more to do with quality and marketing. There seem to be a lot of people saying Sony has no games. That has 2 meanings to it.

1. They really don't have any games.

2. They don't have any games that people give a shit about.

Mostly everything from the Sony camp has been ports or poor rated games. What.... Daylight just came out and is terrible and MLB The Show just dropped and has lost quality over the past few years. Now we an HD remake, more rumored to come, and indie ports.

Mix all that in with the terrible marketing Sony continues to have and it makes me shocked that people can't understand why other people think Sony has no games.


Yes, there been a lot of people saying sony don't have games, dgpu is real, cloud will make the console 3x more powerfull, dx12 and new sdk will improve x1, X1 is selling more than PS4 on USA... the fact that people say something don't make it true, do it?

OOOOOOOO In your face



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sales2099 on 09 May 2014
Kratos said:
sales2099 said:

"If it's not an exclusive then it has no pull"

And here lies the #1 problem I have with PS fans. A multiplat on Xbox, while not on PS, clearly sells millions and consoles itself. But is it allowed in proper discussion? Does it have a place in 1 vs 1 console comparisons? Does it not differentiate one console over another? Nope......according to people just. like. you., it doesn't count because it was available somewhere else, despite its obvious impact.

I would argue increased PS4 shipments sold more PS4's then anything ;)

It doesn't matter that you can play Titanfall on PC. What you don't realize that 1.6 million and counting people decided to play it on X1, and many of them bought the console for the game. I know karazzzy right?

Dam right X1 has 0 exclusives in 2014 so far, on that we agree and can't deny. Yet somehow has a game, not on PS4, with far more pull and relevance then any exclusive PS4 currently has out. That IMO is more embarassing. It isn't even a MS exclusive or 1st party IP and it has more relevance ;)


Stop generalizing PS Fans please. We are not all the same.

Yaya I know. Still beside the point I was making. Waiting patiently for his counter response.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

Seece on 09 May 2014

I agree, MS are really pulling all the stops out for games that make you take notice. Quite frankly indie games are fun for a bit on the side but they're not huge event level games.

Dead Rising, Ryse, Forza, Garden Warfare, Titanfall, Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break, Forza Horizons and Halo Anniversary 2

Vs.

Killzone, Knack, Infamous, Driveclub, Order, and??

Of course there are unknowns which will be revealed soon, but still, MS are hammering out the exclusives like nobodies business.



 

DonFerrari on 09 May 2014
sales2099 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Mensrea said:
Alot of people are really saying that the PS4 has all these exclusives coming up, I would love if they would try to name some. I would like to be proved wrong, but other than The Order and driveclub, I've seen nothing. And those two games look "meh".


Why should we do work for you? Ps4 has more games and more on the way which is why its winning in sales

Hes talking about quality and not quantity. Not indies (for they are bonuses, not system sellers in themselves) and not niche exclsuives. In that regard, PS4 has Killzone, Infamous out now. Later this year is Drive Club and The Order. That's just 4 standout games in total.

Think PS4 sales have a LOT more to do with price, geographical brand loyalty, specs, and positive PR in general. Not necessarily its games......very hard to argue that 7 million people just HAD to play Killzone and Infamous.


And with X1 having better games, having brand loyalty in America and during the TF release were cheaper than if someone would buy PS4+game, that was the reason for NPD March showing PS4 clearly ahead?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Porcupeth on 09 May 2014

No, what's embarrasing is you using a multiplat game as if it were an exclusive. 1.6 million bought TF? Ok, how many of those were free copies given away? How many of those were bought by people who already had a XB1? How many of those are casuals who need aim assist on their FPSes instead of playing on PC where skill actually matters?



DonFerrari on 09 May 2014
Seece said:

I agree, MS are really pulling all the stops out for games that make you take notice. Quite frankly indie games are fun for a bit on the side but they're not huge event level games.

Dead Rising, Ryse, Forza, Garden Warfare, Titanfall, Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break, Forza Horizons and Halo Anniversary 2

Vs.

Killzone, Knack, Infamous, Driveclub, Order, and??

Of course there are unknowns which will be revealed soon, but still, MS are hammering out the exclusives like nobodies business.


You put a lot of non released games for MS but curiously forgot about Sony... not even UC4 in your post?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."