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Well, Netflix said they wanted and where going' to do everything they can, to be the first in 4K HD Streaming, and now they finally did it, and they did it no thanks to people like us. (LOL)

http://blog.netflix.com/2014/05/netflix-now-streaming-in-ultra-hd-4k.html



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Nice it's available but I can't even stream Netflix HD with my bandwidth cap.

Btw you need a 2014 model 4K tv to be able to use it: http://www.techradar.com/news/television/hdtv/netflix-now-streaming-house-of-cards-in-4k-but-only-for-new-2014-tvs-1240834
It uses the new h.265 codec, at an average 16mbps. That's equivalent to about 30mbps h.264, so matching or slightly exceeding blu-ray quality. Still a bit low for 4K but I guess if you're used to their 8mbps Ultra HD h.264 1080p streaming, it will be comparable quality 4K streaming. (After the encoding tools mature a bit)

Sony just announced their new line up with HMDI 2.0 and HEVC (h.265) decoding.
http://www.twice.com/articletype/news/sony-formally-releases-4k-ultra-hd-tv-pricing/110801
Prices range from $2,099 (49") to $25k (85")
The sweet spot for 4K (imo) 65" will cost $3,999 XBR-X850B, $4,999 XBR-X900B, $7,999 XBR-X950B.

Samsung already started selling their 65" U8550 (flat) $3,999 and U9000 (curved) $4,999
You can probably get them cheaper, that's all suggested retail pricing. Or for more 65" U8550 at BestBuy Canada is $4,399 :( And do your research online, Best buy lists tons of specs except the one that matters, HDMI version. At least they list h.265 among the compatible media port movie types.

I would be tempted if I didn't have a bandwidth cap. I'll wait for 4K blu-ray instead.



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that's really nice. i probably won't have a 4k tv for at least 10 years but maybe this will mean i get more 1080p streams instead of my usual 720ish streams.



kitler53 said:
that's really nice. i probably won't have a 4k tv for at least 10 years but maybe this will mean i get more 1080p streams instead of my usual 720ish streams.


But that time, you can just buy 8K TVs for cheap, and watch all IMAX movies, in their original resolution, literally.

Im planning on skipping 4K myself.

I Don't yet have an HD anything except a Windows 7 Acer Labtop.

I will get a passive 3D 1080p HD TV and then a Wii U and then an PS4 and then an Xbox ONE.

Im still glad I skipped the PS3 & Wii. Plus the 360 was the better choice over the PS3, making the PS3 useless to me personally. But I only bought a DS that Generation.

I won't get a PS Vita this gen, but yes on everything else obviously for me, this Gen.



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SvennoJ said:
Nice it's available but I can't even stream Netflix HD with my bandwidth cap.

Btw you need a 2014 model 4K tv to be able to use it: http://www.techradar.com/news/television/hdtv/netflix-now-streaming-house-of-cards-in-4k-but-only-for-new-2014-tvs-1240834
It uses the new h.265 codec, at an average 16mbps. That's equivalent to about 30mbps h.264, so matching or slightly exceeding blu-ray quality. Still a bit low for 4K but I guess if you're used to their 8mbps Ultra HD h.264 1080p streaming, it will be comparable quality 4K streaming. (After the encoding tools mature a bit)

Sony just announced their new line up with HMDI 2.0 and HEVC (h.265) decoding.
http://www.twice.com/articletype/news/sony-formally-releases-4k-ultra-hd-tv-pricing/110801
Prices range from $2,099 (49") to $25k (85")
The sweet spot for 4K (imo) 65" will cost $3,999 XBR-X850B, $4,999 XBR-X900B, $7,999 XBR-X950B.

Samsung already started selling their 65" U8550 (flat) $3,999 and U9000 (curved) $4,999
You can probably get them cheaper, that's all suggested retail pricing. Or for more 65" U8550 at BestBuy Canada is $4,399 :( And do your research online, Best buy lists tons of specs except the one that matters, HDMI version. At least they list h.265 among the compatible media port movie types.

I would be tempted if I didn't have a bandwidth cap. I'll wait for 4K blu-ray instead.


No love for physical IMAX home media (8K DVD) ?

LOL, you know in a few years they release the TV & DVD for 8K HD. Plus technology always becomes 10 to 20 times greater every 12 months, when they are only require 2 times greater in 18 months.

Intel use to do around 15 times more greater CPU's every 12 months, but in the last few years they gotten lazy and only done 2 to 5 times greater each year, but to be fair; the mark up value on all electronics is soo high, that intel themselves can slow down from now on.



Kaizar said:
SvennoJ said:
Nice it's available but I can't even stream Netflix HD with my bandwidth cap.

Btw you need a 2014 model 4K tv to be able to use it: http://www.techradar.com/news/television/hdtv/netflix-now-streaming-house-of-cards-in-4k-but-only-for-new-2014-tvs-1240834
It uses the new h.265 codec, at an average 16mbps. That's equivalent to about 30mbps h.264, so matching or slightly exceeding blu-ray quality. Still a bit low for 4K but I guess if you're used to their 8mbps Ultra HD h.264 1080p streaming, it will be comparable quality 4K streaming. (After the encoding tools mature a bit)

Sony just announced their new line up with HMDI 2.0 and HEVC (h.265) decoding.
http://www.twice.com/articletype/news/sony-formally-releases-4k-ultra-hd-tv-pricing/110801
Prices range from $2,099 (49") to $25k (85")
The sweet spot for 4K (imo) 65" will cost $3,999 XBR-X850B, $4,999 XBR-X900B, $7,999 XBR-X950B.

Samsung already started selling their 65" U8550 (flat) $3,999 and U9000 (curved) $4,999
You can probably get them cheaper, that's all suggested retail pricing. Or for more 65" U8550 at BestBuy Canada is $4,399 :( And do your research online, Best buy lists tons of specs except the one that matters, HDMI version. At least they list h.265 among the compatible media port movie types.

I would be tempted if I didn't have a bandwidth cap. I'll wait for 4K blu-ray instead.


No love for physical IMAX home media (8K DVD) ?

LOL, you know in a few years they release the TV & DVD for 8K HD. Plus technology always becomes 10 to 20 times greater every 12 months, when they are only require 2 times greater in 18 months.

Intel use to do around 15 times more greater CPU's every 12 months, but in the last few years they gotten lazy and only done 2 to 5 times greater each year, but to be fair; the mark up value on all electronics is soo high, that intel themselves can slow down from now on.

Yes, but I also get older! Might as well enjoy it before my eyes and ears go :p

It won't be in a few years either, 8K tvs maybe, movies no. 4K is the end for all movies currently existing except for a handful well preserved 70mm movies. 8K movies are not even planned yet. The best movie cameras can do atm is 5K.

Ofcourse I'll upgrade to an 8K projector eventually. However I already skipped 3D, it's time for an upgrade :)



SvennoJ said:
Kaizar said:
SvennoJ said:
Nice it's available but I can't even stream Netflix HD with my bandwidth cap.

Btw you need a 2014 model 4K tv to be able to use it: http://www.techradar.com/news/television/hdtv/netflix-now-streaming-house-of-cards-in-4k-but-only-for-new-2014-tvs-1240834
It uses the new h.265 codec, at an average 16mbps. That's equivalent to about 30mbps h.264, so matching or slightly exceeding blu-ray quality. Still a bit low for 4K but I guess if you're used to their 8mbps Ultra HD h.264 1080p streaming, it will be comparable quality 4K streaming. (After the encoding tools mature a bit)

Sony just announced their new line up with HMDI 2.0 and HEVC (h.265) decoding.
http://www.twice.com/articletype/news/sony-formally-releases-4k-ultra-hd-tv-pricing/110801
Prices range from $2,099 (49") to $25k (85")
The sweet spot for 4K (imo) 65" will cost $3,999 XBR-X850B, $4,999 XBR-X900B, $7,999 XBR-X950B.

Samsung already started selling their 65" U8550 (flat) $3,999 and U9000 (curved) $4,999
You can probably get them cheaper, that's all suggested retail pricing. Or for more 65" U8550 at BestBuy Canada is $4,399 :( And do your research online, Best buy lists tons of specs except the one that matters, HDMI version. At least they list h.265 among the compatible media port movie types.

I would be tempted if I didn't have a bandwidth cap. I'll wait for 4K blu-ray instead.


No love for physical IMAX home media (8K DVD) ?

LOL, you know in a few years they release the TV & DVD for 8K HD. Plus technology always becomes 10 to 20 times greater every 12 months, when they are only require 2 times greater in 18 months.

Intel use to do around 15 times more greater CPU's every 12 months, but in the last few years they gotten lazy and only done 2 to 5 times greater each year, but to be fair; the mark up value on all electronics is soo high, that intel themselves can slow down from now on.

Yes, but I also get older! Might as well enjoy it before my eyes and ears go :p

It won't be in a few years either, 8K tvs maybe, movies no. 4K is the end for all movies currently existing except for a handful well preserved 70mm movies. 8K movies are not even planned yet. The best movie cameras can do atm is 5K.

Ofcourse I'll upgrade to an 8K projector eventually. However I already skipped 3D, it's time for an upgrade :)


3D comes with all 4K TVs.

And they got Digital 3D IMAX cameras, which have already started to being used in movies like Transformers 4. It weighs less then a 2D IMAX Camera and doesn't make any noise or very little silent noise, so you can use it in all dialogue scenes while moving the camera. It's also smaller then 2D IMAX cameras.

I just think a lot more movies will start using Digital IMAX cameras. Of course I could be wrong.



Kaizar said:
 

3D comes with all 4K TVs.

And they got Digital 3D IMAX cameras, which have already started to being used in movies like Transformers 4. It weighs less then a 2D IMAX Camera and doesn't make any noise or very little silent noise, so you can use it in all dialogue scenes while moving the camera. It's also smaller then 2D IMAX cameras.

I just think a lot more movies will start using Digital IMAX cameras. Of course I could be wrong.

Digital 3D IMAX cameras shoot in 4K, less then Red's 5K cameras used for 2D, and less than the upto 8700 lines capable on the negatives of the traditional IMAX cameras. Not that it matters since only this year IMAX has started to upgrade to 4K in their venues, dual 2K is the standard. They should be going for 8K projectors instead. It will be a while before IMAX reaches the image quality it used to have. The last movie shot in 65mm (and cut in analog) is The master (2012)

This is what 8K still looks like for now



Actually 8K satellite broadcasts are still planned for 2020 in Japan.
http://www.streamingmedia.com/Articles/News/Online-Video-News/NAB-Vendors-Demo-4K-Talk-8K-88909.aspx

Red is developing a 6K camera Epic Dragon and have 28K! on their roadmap.

Brodersen revealed that Fotokem is testing 8K images derived from a Sony F65 camera. The F65 contains an 8K sensor though until now it has only been optimised for 4K. That changes this summer when a software upgrade becomes available to unlock the sensor's full capability.
Now that's a software upgrade!

The 8k camera's are coming. I wonder when the first 8K digital intermediate will be made.

First semi 8K projector (4096x2400 diagonally shifted at 120hz)

$261,000

I think I'll go for 4K first :)