Mr Khan said:
A valid point, but grazing fees are not universally "public land grazing fees" paid to the state or federal government. Land-use is as big a part of Western American culture as land ownership is, and folks would boo this man as a moocher if he were grazing on privately held land and refusing to pay. How is it when the ownership changes, suddenly freeloading is "sticking it to the man?" It's just that the federal government happens to own a lot of land out west. |
I personally don't believe states (or federal states) can own property, mostly because their funds and tools are stolen with the use of force. I believe the only proper way to obtain unowned land is homesteading with tools and funds that were not stolen. I believe the only proper way of obtaining owned land is by purchasing it. But let's assume the state can own land, and that this property is "publicly" owned. Let's also assume taxation is justified and all people who pay taxes must be represented in the government (this is also something I contest.) If we make those assumptions, then if one has a disagreement with how the land should be used, and they think that the federal government is unfair on permitting who should use it and for what, then it is perfectly reasonable, as a person who has at least some ownership of the land, but is forbidden from using it - to declare the government as being unfair and to disobey it. If other people agree with you, and want to participate, it makes (from this perspective) perfectly moral sense. Now let's look at this from Bundy's perspective. He doesn't even recognize the legitimacy of the federal government, and believes all of the land he is grazing is owned by the state of Nevada. Since the state of Nevada refuses to take payment for the grazing rights, it is in his eyes, implicit consent that he does not need to pay for its use. He also did attempt to pay the federal government, but found the rules too unfair, and turned to civil disobedience.
My personal issue with this whole scenario; however, is when the government retaliates and steals (or attempts to steal) even more of his property (in this case the cattle.) If I were using your property without your permission, and kept using it even after you expressed your disaproval, it doesn't give you the right to go to steal my property, as a means for retribution. It does give you the right, however, to seek retribution for the damage to your property from some legal means, but the value must equal the damage to your property, and I'm certain that Bundy's cattle did not eat 1 million dollars worth of grass or induce 1 million dollars worth of damage to the property.









