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g911turbo on 28 February 2014
JayWood2010 said:
I cant speak for every game but it was the best thing to happen for TitanFall. It's a new Ip that got paid for by MSFT and there isnt a company in the business that can do massive advertisement campaigns as good as MSFT. MSFT is even bundling TF with XBO. All this puts TF on the map along with it looking like an excellent game


Agree 100%.  Without some funding upfront, who knows if Titanfall would have even happened (EA might have never backed due to the assumed risk).



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S.T.A.G.E. on 28 February 2014
TheSting said:
Forecast could mean the system where the 1st person shooter sells the most. Based on that and assuming MS talked to them 1st about the DRM and EA liking it they wanted to help the Xbox more than PS


Yep. EA even dropped their DRM because  they thought MS would succeed, but when Microsoft got caught and they saw the backlash they didnt even bother with bringing the DRM back with online passes. It was premeditated. Thank god for cinemablend or else Microsoft would've caught everyone off guard.



g911turbo on 28 February 2014
Fusioncode said:
Looks like quite a bit of the "one billion for games" went straight to EA. The more PS4 sells, the more it's going to cost Microsoft to get exclusive games and DLC. Eventually the cost will outstrip the advantages.


This I agree with this too, for established franchises.  Again, per my last quoted post, Titanfall is a NEW franchise that needed funding and backing to get off the ground.  That came from a deal with EA/Microsoft and Respawn.  How do we even know if Sony was ready to offer up ANY money to help this series get off the ground?  



S.T.A.G.E. on 28 February 2014
g911turbo said:
Fusioncode said:
Looks like quite a bit of the "one billion for games" went straight to EA. The more PS4 sells, the more it's going to cost Microsoft to get exclusive games and DLC. Eventually the cost will outstrip the advantages.


This I agree with this too, for established franchises.  Again, per my last quoted post, Titanfall is a NEW franchise that needed funding and backing to get off the ground.  That came from a deal with EA/Microsoft and Respawn.  How do we even know if Sony was ready to offer up ANY money to help this series get off the ground?  

Sony doesnt need to offer money, they aren't desperate. They've got enough hot games coming from their own studio. Microsoft has been publishing third party games, funding second party and paying for exclusivity up the yin yang for this launch. Especially in Japan, Sony isnt going to pay very much outside of DLC. They cant play the money game with Microsoft because they cant and they don't need to.



ethomaz on 28 February 2014

gergroy said:

No they didnt.  They said they made the deal using forcasts.  That doesnt mean they were forcasting that the xbox was going to sell more, just that the money they asked from microsoft was based on their forcasted sales.  If anything, their statement means they thought the x1 would sell less, since they are still happy with their deal.

They said... they said they made the decisions based in the projeted sales for the consoles... that's means Xbone > PS4... so they choose make the exclusivity deal with Microsoft.

Key phase "We had some forecast at that time from where we thought both Xbox and PlayStation would be and that’s what we based our decision on."

What the only possible forecast that can make a company based a deicion on? The choose console to be strong than the other... it is easy to read guys... but some will think the forecast showed Xbone done bad and EA even so based in that choose it lol.

Turned out that now EA is crying because their estimates didn't happened.



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gergroy on 28 February 2014
ethomaz said:

gergroy said:

No they didnt.  They said they made the deal using forcasts.  That doesnt mean they were forcasting that the xbox was going to sell more, just that the money they asked from microsoft was based on their forcasted sales.  If anything, their statement means they thought the x1 would sell less, since they are still happy with their deal.

They said... they said they made the decisions based in the projeted sales for the consoles... that's means Xbone > PS4... so they choose make the exclusivity deal with Microsoft.

Key phase "We had some forecast at that time from where we thought both Xbox and PlayStation would be and that’s what we based our decision on."

What the only possible forecast that can make a company based a deicion on? The choose console to be strong than the other... it is easy to read guys... but some will think the forecast showed Xbone done bad and EA even so based in that choose it lol.

Turned out that now EA is crying because their estimates didn't happened.


You are reading something that isnt there.  There are many ways that phrase can be read, like i said before in my post, it could be that they used those forcasts to charge microsoft more money.  More money from microsoft means less risk.  Great for a new ip with a start up company.  

That being said, it could also mean they thought xbox would sell more.  Or it could mean they thought the demographics on xbox were better, or it could mean a bunch of things.  It is a very vague statement.  

Bottom line, EA never said they thought xbox one would sell more.  They made a vague statement that some people are interpreting as saying that.  



ethomaz on 28 February 2014

gergroy said:

You are reading something that isnt there.  There are many ways that phrase can be read, like i said before in my post, it could be that they used those forcasts to charge microsoft more money.  More money from microsoft means less risk.  Great for a new ip with a start up company. 

That being said, it could also mean they thought xbox would sell more.  Or it could mean they thought the demographics on xbox were better, or it could mean a bunch of things.  It is a very vague statement.

Bottom line, EA never said they thought xbox one would sell more.  They made a vague statement that some people are interpreting as saying that.

You don't make a deal with a product that won't sell well... EA was caught of surprise with the last numbers... mainly NPD.



J_Allard on 28 February 2014
ethomaz said:
EA said that expected Xbone to sell more and people can't read that lol

I'd love to read that, do you by chance have an actual quote from EA saying it? That's all I'm asking for.



ethomaz on 28 February 2014

J_Allard said:

I'd love to read that, do you by chance have an actual quote from EA saying it? That's all I'm asking for.

I quoted two times already.

"We had some forecast at that time from where we thought both Xbox and PlayStation would be and that’s what we based our decision on." 



poklane on 28 February 2014
ethomaz said:

J_Allard said:

I'd love to read that, do you by chance have an actual quote from EA saying it? That's all I'm asking for.

I quoted two times already.

"We had some forecast at that time from where we thought both Xbox and PlayStation would be and that’s what we based our decision on." 

Too bad that turned out to be a complete lie, as PS3 and PS4 references were found in Titanfall's pc Beta, and a Dualshock and blurred out console were seen in a behind the scenes vid. Respawn also always held PS3/PS4 versions open for the first Titanfall, until EA suddeny outed the deal was permanent for the first game.