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Should white people be allowed in the conversation of multiethnicity?

Yes-White people are multiethnic, too 52 70.27%
 
No - they don't understand the struggles 2 2.70%
 
I didn't even know this was a problem 13 17.57%
 
Total:67
Goatseye on 27 February 2014

 

DarkD said:


Umm I half think you misread my post.  

Firstly, that link didn't just show that africans still have slavers, it also says that they have had it even back in the 1800s1.  Of course people condemn that, I'm just countering the argument that White People have some big apology to make2.  That and the argument that they were wronged in some horrible way.  It happened to everyone.  

No I never got picked on for being white, I live in Canada.  We're the ones who never got into slavery and actually snuck the slaves out of the US.  Were you being picked on for being white?  I am having trouble understanding where that line even came from because I never mentioned anything like that.  I'm more of an outside commentator wondering why the situation is so ridiculous down there...

All I'm saying is, wars are started by everyone.  Slavery was practiced by everyone.  Brutality happened on all sides.  Thus, there's no reason white people should be left out of the conversation mentioned by the thread starter.  

1- P.O.W.- prisoners of war. Ever heard of that term? Some African nations did it just like now is being done in Afghanistan. In case of defeat you get killed or subject to hard labor. They didn't go around targeting a specific race for lucrative reasons, like a cattle.

2- Who wants those apologies? But didn't Africans get wronged? Let me give you an exerpt about King Leopold II of Belgium:

"Abandoning the promises of the Berlin Conference in the late 1890s, the Free State government restricted foreign access and extorted forced labor from the natives. Abuses, especially in the rubber industry, included the effective enslavement of the native population, beatings, widespread killing, and frequent mutilation when the production quotas were not met."

Now show me a brutality like that that happened on the other side like you said.

Look man, nobody that perfectly knows history want an apology. Africans are already moving forward, slowly, but steadily consciencializing their worth and the need to rid neo-colonialism.

Resentment is still felt in the hearts of black people because of the familial ties that are never lost and the history orally told by generations that keep alive memories. But anger is something you're (people in this thread) fabricating and confusing it with issues of troubled inner city youth folks.

My 4th grade book had accounts of slavery where people would get whipped, until bleed out and get treated with salt... like animals. There was no Barney in my elementary school book.

This thing about whites being discriminated against more than anyone is being blown out of proportion. If I go to Chicago and walk in the wrong neighborhood, I will get my butt kicked.

And to the OP don't be afraid of giving your opinion but avoid dumb argument at all costs. It will never lead to a desired end.



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Goatseye on 27 February 2014
stabface said:

I meant that the Africans are lliterally eating each other, and I can only take your comment about the US doing the same thing as figurative, about imperialism perhaps bc Americans sure as hell dont have to be cannibals.  Also, when conditions in many areas of Africa are thst bad, you start to want to generalize a bit. 

Name countries.



wangjingwanjia on 27 February 2014

"I didn't even know this was a problem."

Everyone should be against racism and of course be allowed to discuss it. And yes I didn't know this was a problem. But racism as a whole is a problem, and people that say it doesn't exist anymore I would choose to call ignorant or even stupid.

And yes, anyone can be racist.





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Goatseye on 27 February 2014

"An American blogger's open letter to Pinoys" Is the OP surprised at the backlash? C'mon, that blogger is stupid for labeling himself American instead of signing the opinion piece with his name. His/Her opinion is not American or white people's.
Whether the OP wants engage in that conversation blows my mind.



stabface on 27 February 2014
Goatseye said:
stabface said:
 

I meant that the Africans are lliterally eating each other, and I can only take your comment about the US doing the same thing as figurative, about imperialism perhaps bc Americans sure as hell dont have to be cannibals.  Also, when conditions in many areas of Africa are thst bad, you start to want to generalize a bit. 

Name countries.


Cannibalism exists in Africa to such a large degree that I don't need to name anything.  All you have to do is put "cannibalism africa" into the search bar, I even got videos of somebody munching on someone.  

 

With many Africans being so poor to the point of starvation, incidents of cannibalism should come as no shock to you.



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Jay520 on 27 February 2014
outlawauron said:
Jay520 said:
rolltide101x said:There are far more black people on tv than their % of the population. WAY more than 12% of people on tv are black, terrible point


You are missing the point. Even if those statistics were true, which I'm not sure if they are, that be missing the core point of BET. The point of BET is not merely to boost the amount of Black actors on television; rather, it is primarily meant to provide entertainment particularly for the Black audience (whether or not it succeeds at that is another question). Now, let's think about whether or not the same thing would make sense for the White audience...no it would not. Almost all television channels try to produce entertaintment for the majority (Whites); so it would be pretty redundant to make a channel particularly for Whites. 

Further, if a company wanted to make a channel called "White Television", then no one would catch a fit. Yes, people would be shocked because there are already plenty of channels that would accomplish the same goal, but it definitely would not be forcibly shut down lol. But of course, this is all hypothetical conjecture which would be impossible to prove or disprove. So I would rather not get too deep into this hypothetical scenario.

This is a huge lie and you know it. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be on a plane within the hour. I also don't understand you believe every other channel is White People TV. Pretty certain people target genders and ages, meaning humans not color.



like I said, I don't want to get involved with hypotheticals because they cannot be tested.

As for the television point, yes, most television shows do cater to Whites. That is not to say they are consciously and directly catered toward Whites. But they are tailored to what the majority prefers, which just so happens to be what Whites prefer. So, in effect, it is the same.

Goatseye on 27 February 2014
stabface said:


Cannibalism exists in Africa to such a large degree that I don't need to name anything.  All you have to do is put "cannibalism africa" into the search bar, I even got videos of somebody munching on someone.  

 

With many Africans being so poor to the point of starvation, incidents of cannibalism should come as no shock to you.

Do you know how many countries are there in Africa?

How many people in US are locked up because of cannibalism? No shock here too. I mean it's a tradition.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/early-us-settlers-resorted-cannibalism-175930246.html#mgwhHg0



stabface on 27 February 2014
Goatseye said:
stabface said:
 


Cannibalism exists in Africa to such a large degree that I don't need to name anything.  All you have to do is put "cannibalism africa" into the search bar, I even got videos of somebody munching on someone.  

 

With many Africans being so poor to the point of starvation, incidents of cannibalism should come as no shock to you.

Do you know how many countries are there in Africa?

How many people in US are locked up because of cannibalism? No shock here too. I mean it's a tradition.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/early-us-settlers-resorted-cannibalism-175930246.html#mgwhHg0

II'm sure, but this has apparently been going on for a while in Africa, in various regions as well, but you are complaining about the early settlers, a group that existed for a handful of decades, until they became civilized enough that they didnt need to do that, even in the limited incidents your article mentions.  Face it, the Africans are dangerous.  The sheer propensity of scams coming out of Nigeria is shocking to say the least. 



cannonballZ on 27 February 2014

Just because some rich white folk don't understand the "struggle" doesn't mean whites should be excluded. Looking at all whites as the same is not really helping progress against racism.

It's hypocritical in my opinion, I think everyone should be included if you want everyone to progress on the subject matter.



HylianSwordsman on 27 February 2014

Okay, I have an issue with that poll. White people aren't just an ethnicity, they're several ethnicities. White people are incredibly diverse, and lumping them all together like that is ignorant. The world is more than just black and white (and yellow and red, whatever). White and black alike have diverse ethnicities. Yet we just assume blacks are African and whites are European. Oh yeah, and of course yellow means you're Asian. Heads up people, those are WHOLE CONTINENTS, you can't just divide people into continents by color and think you understand diversity. The conversation of multiethnicity most definitely includes the many ethnicities that happen to be considered white. It's ignorant, racist bastards like the ones you're quoting that should be kept out of the conversation until they're better informed about the whole of human diversity.