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What do you think about Nintendo's attitude?

Awful, they should fail i... 189 14.04%
 
Pretty Bad, they should l... 385 28.60%
 
Not bad, they're just as anybody else 188 13.97%
 
Good, we need more like them 389 28.90%
 
Excellent, they don't need to change one bit 173 12.85%
 
Total:1,324

Truth... you keep using that word to describe your biased opinions....



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vkaraujo said:
And you sir, have a "debt" with me for the time i spend reading this.
Most of it is made of very subjective assumptions representing your personal preferences regarded as truth, which are later used to bash Nintendo. And the small part that is not subjective, is just 20 years old.

That means region lock is subjective.

 

vkaraujo said:

There is already consoles out there that fit yor preferences. Why you waste your time criticizing the existence of a different option instead of just playing with the system you say you like is the real question here.

For the same reason of why you also come to the forums instead of just playing the games you like.



Prediction made in 14/01/2014 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 70M      WiiU: 25M

Prediction made in 01/04/2016 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 18M

Prediction made in 15/04/2017 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 90M      XOne: 40M      WiiU: 15M      Switch: 20M

Prediction made in 24/03/2018 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 110M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 14M      Switch: 65M

I get what the OP is saying. But frankly Nintendo doesn't owe anyone jack squat. If you paid $300 for a brand new Wii U, you got a brand new Wii U. If you decide to buy a $60 game for the Wii U, you got a $60 game for the Wii U. If Nintendo decides to pocket 80% of the profits, who are you to complain? You get what you paid for. I'm not happy with the Wii U's third party offerings or even the inconsistent 1st and 2nd party offerings but Nintendo doesn't owe me jack squat personally.

What Nintendo does with it's 3rd party partners is its business. Yes, it is frustrating. They can improve a lot. But Nintendo is Nintendo. Just don't buy a Nintendo console or buy a Nintendo console and a PS4 or Xbox One as I will eventually.

I don't understand why people want Nintendo to invest all their wealth or billions. If that were the case, then Nintendo probably would have died a long time ago because that is not the way to run a successful business. This is why studios are shutting down/bankrupting and developers are flocking to smartphone games.



Luck said:
Zod95 said:
Spazzy_D said:
Just want to say, but graphically at least, the 6th gen consoles were pretty clearly Xbox > Gamecube > PS2 > Dreamcast.

PS2 was the most powerful console when it was launched. That is being cutting-edge. Otherwise, NES was not cutting-edge either.

Yeah, and the Wii U was the most powerful console when it launched so it's cutting-edge.

You are mostly (See my previous post) trying to make ''Truths'' out of highly subjective assumptions that you are seing as ''Facts''.

And when a fact is presented to you, like in this case (Raw power = Xbox > Gamecube > PS2 > Dreamcast) , you are using twisted and silly logic to make it fit your way of thinking.

Wii U was only the most powerful console on paper. It never had the best game in graphics. PS2 did.

Wii U is a piece of 7th gen tech launched 1 year before its 8th gen competitors. PS2 is a 6th gen piece of tech launched 1 year before its 6th competitors. I think the difference is pretty obvious.

Of course you can see Game Cube as a much more powerful console than PS2, eventually almost as powerful as the PS3, while seeing WiiU as almost a PS4. I can't prevent that. I just can stick to my "twisted logic".



Prediction made in 14/01/2014 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 70M      WiiU: 25M

Prediction made in 01/04/2016 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 18M

Prediction made in 15/04/2017 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 90M      XOne: 40M      WiiU: 15M      Switch: 20M

Prediction made in 24/03/2018 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 110M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 14M      Switch: 65M

You think everyone even likes hyper-realism? I can't stand it, I think it makes the games hard to enjoy. Voice acting is over-rated. I think if they added it to Zelda games, they would lose their appeal. It wouldn't feel as mysterious anymore.

Look at Sonic, they have been throwing half assed characters with bad voices out like crazy. The last Sonic game I liked was for the Sega Genesis, where Sonic was completely mute. Vocals in game music just sounds wrong to me... They ruin the mood.

I suppose you don't watch japanese anime or play rpg's much but 99% of the stuff that's imported over here and dubbed in english is just awful.

I suppose you spend your gaming time staring at the screen, I spend mine playing the games. Games are better with cartoony graphics. Take a look at Prison Architect, an indie game being made for the PC, they admitted that realistic graphics ruined RTS games and are making their game in glorious 2D cartoon style.



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This is terribly wrong.

The main problem is that you want your videogames to be subsidized by Microsoft's profitable Windows and Office, and Sony's other divisions (when they were profitable, years ago), now you would be having your videogames subsidized by Sony debt.

You are basically praising what is known as dumping.

If I am Wall Mart, and I open a super market in some third world country, and sell everything very cheaply, even losing money, to eliminate the competition that needs to make a profit to survive, because I know the profits of the American supermarkets would let me take a loss here, that is negative even if the inhabitants of that third world country have cheaper food for a while.

What Nintendo does is what is healthy and should be normal, companies making a profit on what they sell. You basically have been spoiled by an unhealthy business practice that could cause the video game market to crash.



Nem said:
"the truth" How dramatic...

No i think Nintendo simply doesnt let others set their pace. They go at their own pace, for better or worse. There are advantages and disavantages, but otherwise i am happy they are around.

This is far from being just about pace. If you don't want to read the whole OP, read the section 3.3, which summarizes almost everything.



Prediction made in 14/01/2014 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 70M      WiiU: 25M

Prediction made in 01/04/2016 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 18M

Prediction made in 15/04/2017 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 90M      XOne: 40M      WiiU: 15M      Switch: 20M

Prediction made in 24/03/2018 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 110M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 14M      Switch: 65M

VitroBahllee said:
Zod95 said:

Nintendo is very significant in the videogaming industry....

Thanks for this post. You put a lot of thought and effort into it, and it was an interesting read. I am a Nintendo fan (though I don't like much of what they are choosing to do lately) and this was very interesting. Thanks!

Sure.

It's hard to find a Nintendo fan willing to accept negative critics about Nintendo. I praise you for that.



Prediction made in 14/01/2014 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 70M      WiiU: 25M

Prediction made in 01/04/2016 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 18M

Prediction made in 15/04/2017 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 90M      XOne: 40M      WiiU: 15M      Switch: 20M

Prediction made in 24/03/2018 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 110M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 14M      Switch: 65M

Zod95 said:
Luck said:
Zod95 said:
Spazzy_D said:
Just want to say, but graphically at least, the 6th gen consoles were pretty clearly Xbox > Gamecube > PS2 > Dreamcast.

PS2 was the most powerful console when it was launched. That is being cutting-edge. Otherwise, NES was not cutting-edge either.

Yeah, and the Wii U was the most powerful console when it launched so it's cutting-edge.

You are mostly (See my previous post) trying to make ''Truths'' out of highly subjective assumptions that you are seing as ''Facts''.

And when a fact is presented to you, like in this case (Raw power = Xbox > Gamecube > PS2 > Dreamcast) , you are using twisted and silly logic to make it fit your way of thinking.

Wii U was only the most powerful console on paper. It never had the best game in graphics. PS2 did.

Wii U is a piece of 7th gen tech launched 1 year before its 8th gen competitors. PS2 is a 6th gen piece of tech launched 1 year before its 6th competitors. I think the difference is pretty obvious.

Of course you can see Game Cube as a much more powerful console than PS2, eventually almost as powerful as the PS3, while seeing WiiU as almost a PS4. I can't prevent that. I just can stick to my "twisted logic".

Yes, it is twisted logic how you are comprehending one of the weakest 6th gen console as cutting-edge tech while ditching the hardware of the Gamecube.

By the way, I was just being sacarstic about the Wii U. 



SuperMarioWorld said:
I stopped during your sports rant at 1.2 as I think this is extremely lame. I'd rather play Mario Stryker over Fifa anyday. Simulation sports/racing games are not for everyone. Wii Sports proved that. I play games for fun.. if I want to play Basketball I'll get out and play it with friends. Sure beats learning a 12 page move list that games like NBA 2K require.

So many people making the same mistake. I guess this should be in bold on the OP:

"Note that I’m not taking into account tastes when referring all those games earlier (like the Guinness book is not about the best people in the world). I’m just focusing on objective remarkable achievements of some games that could have only been done with effort/time/money. If the game X is beautiful or if the game Y is fun, that is already subjective (about tastes)"



Prediction made in 14/01/2014 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 70M      WiiU: 25M

Prediction made in 01/04/2016 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 18M

Prediction made in 15/04/2017 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 90M      XOne: 40M      WiiU: 15M      Switch: 20M

Prediction made in 24/03/2018 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 110M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 14M      Switch: 65M