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mutantclown on 24 February 2014

still talking about "cloud" as a "performance" resource tells me all the opposite of "learning".



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Xenostar on 24 February 2014
Imaginedvl said:
Xenostar said:
Talking down TV, talking up Games, smells like a foundation for Kinectless SKU

I cannot believe you are still spiting this non-sense out... Kinectless Xbox One will not happen; just stop hoping.


Im not hoping per se, it just NEEDS to be cheaper, im very confident they will announce this at E3, unless sales pick up alot before then. 



deskpro2k3 on 24 February 2014

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daredevil.shark on 24 February 2014
AwakeandAlive said:


On the next gen power difference:

“Let’s be clear about this: Xbox One fully supports 1080p at 60 frames-per-second,” said Eagle. “Forza Motosport 5 is an example of a game that delivers on that. It’s up to individual developers to determine what is the best balance in order to deliver the best experience to gamers. No longer can you measure or talk about power in terms of pixels and polygon counts. Performance in this era comes from three areas: hardware, software and the cloud.

 

Yeah. Forza 5 supports 1080p 60fps. Reality is "crystal clear".

 

 



pbroy on 24 February 2014

Anything M$ does will never work out. Even if it is working out, I will downplay it and then when it gets put into my beloved console, it will be true innovation.







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FlamingWeazel on 24 February 2014
thismeintiel said:

Got to laugh at the power difference bit. You can no longer determine power by pixels and polygons? Sure you can't.

And when they are asked that they really should fall on "power isn't everything." Not talk up the BS that is the cloud over and over. They also should stop bringing up Forza, as that game had to have considerable downgrades to even achieve 1080p and 60FPS.

And lastly, I'll never understand why MS didn't get WAY more flack for lying to journalists and consumers about their E3 builds that were running on HW much better than what was actually in the One. Sony got quite a bit of flack for overpromising with their PS3 target vids, but MS got nothing from the media for creating playable builds that were never going to be playable on the One. I guess MS just has deeper pockets.


Sony got racked over the coals for doing it. The West media is a joke, especially gaming media. Same reason MS got off pretty easy with RROD. I think western media is afraid to Piss off MS.



sales2099 on 24 February 2014
FlamingWeazel said:
thismeintiel said:

Got to laugh at the power difference bit. You can no longer determine power by pixels and polygons? Sure you can't.

And when they are asked that they really should fall on "power isn't everything." Not talk up the BS that is the cloud over and over. They also should stop bringing up Forza, as that game had to have considerable downgrades to even achieve 1080p and 60FPS.

And lastly, I'll never understand why MS didn't get WAY more flack for lying to journalists and consumers about their E3 builds that were running on HW much better than what was actually in the One. Sony got quite a bit of flack for overpromising with their PS3 target vids, but MS got nothing from the media for creating playable builds that were never going to be playable on the One. I guess MS just has deeper pockets.


Sony got racked over the coals for doing it. The West media is a joke, especially gaming media. Same reason MS got off pretty easy with RROD. I think western media is afraid to Piss off MS.

I laughed at the last sentence. Sorry but gamers were just willing to put up with it because they *gasp* liked the games it had. 2007 was when it went public however it was also the best year 360 had in terms of exclusives, timed exclusives, 360/PC games.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

Imaginedvl on 24 February 2014
daredevil.shark said:
AwakeandAlive said:


On the next gen power difference:

“Let’s be clear about this: Xbox One fully supports 1080p at 60 frames-per-second,” said Eagle. “Forza Motosport 5 is an example of a game that delivers on that. It’s up to individual developers to determine what is the best balance in order to deliver the best experience to gamers. No longer can you measure or talk about power in terms of pixels and polygon counts. Performance in this era comes from three areas: hardware, software and the cloud.

 

Yeah. Forza 5 supports 1080p 60fps. Reality is "crystal clear".

 

 

 

 

 

Yah because we all know other racing games have 3D models for the crowd, rihgt?... Like it would be any usefull... Get real for a second...



WagnerPaiva on 24 February 2014

Just make XBOX FITNESS a download and no streaming and I will use Xbox One everyday, forever. I don´t mind paying GOLD membership forever too, BUT LET me download the damn vides, having to stream them over and over again is sooooooo stupid.



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.

sales2099 on 24 February 2014

Not on topic per se, but I just hope MS learned that its the head start (done properly) that gives you the edge.

Get early start on userbase and regions where you are at a disadvantage, 3rd parties use you for future lead platform, more leverage for exclusive deals, first to make parts production cheaper and therefore first to sustainably price cut.

That is what I hope MS takes from this gen. That and cater to the core gamer first.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles.