Let me define objective morality. By "Objective", I mean the opposite of "subjective." So when I say “Objective morality”, I mean morality that's independent of people’s (including one’s own) opinion. So if there is objective morality, then certain things are right or wrong, regardless of human opinion or knowledge. It has nothing to do with what humans think. For example, if X is objectively morally wrong, it does not matter if every human alive believes that X is morally right. X would still be morally wrong.

Objective morality is not the same as "absolute" morality. Absolute moral values would be those that hold true under any context; the opposite of "relative". For example: "it's absolutely wrong to kill even if you're defending yourself." This means it's wrong to kill regardless of context (most would disagree here). Objective moral values are independent of what people think; the opposite of "subjective."  For example, take the claim "it's objectively morally wrong to kill someone against their will unless you're defending yourself." This may be true or false. However, under objective morality, the grounds for it's truth/falsity has nothing with what humans think; it's true or false independent of human's knowledge of morality.

So, do you believe in objective moral values? If so, why? I personally do not, which I may or may not elaborate on later.

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No, I don't.

Morality isn't objective simply because we, humans, created it to suit our needs. Or to make us feel better for what we make.

There are many examples of things that most of us take as morally acceptable that others don't, like killing animals to eat or even help the less fortunate (yep, some think that they got what they deserved or what they asked for with the decisions they made).

As someone who is not religious, the main issue is who or what would decide what is and what isn't objectively moral. If one or several persons are to decide, it is no longer objective. If a god or religious guidelines are the deciding factor, I am no longer a non-believer.


So the answer has to be "no".

Yes, absolutely. To me it seems something universal, something absolute and objective, not just something that is there instinctively in humans due to evolutionary programming.

A person can pretend that he believes torture or deliberate sufferring without any benefit is "right" and ideal but I've never encountered it in anyone genuinely, those statements are always out of spite or out of ignorance.

I believe morality is universal. That doesn't necessairly prove there exists a God, but it suggests a supernatural element to our existance.

To a degree.

I think the majority of morality is subjective, however there are some morals that will be objective simply because they are morals society needs to exist.

Things that generally keep the social contract going.

Those morals likely can't change... and if they did?   Society would collapse and there would be no morallity anyway.

Deep topics like this aren't very popular around here anymore?