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ninetailschris on 08 February 2014
DerNebel said:
ninetailschris said:
DerNebel said:
ninetailschris said:
ethomaz said:

Vaios is other division.

BTW PS4 is the first console from Sony to make the first Q post profit instead loss due the record breaking at launch.


You do realize that doesn't make sense. Ps+ is making it profitable and software maybe.

And those increased PS+ and Software sales can't be attributed to the PS4?


He was talking about the actual console sales were the reason. Ps+ really has nothing to do with the argument.

What he said was that the PS4 is the first Sony console that made them profit in its first quarter, he never said it was only because of console sales. When he said "record breaking launch of the PS4" I'm pretty sure he meant everything that came with that launch, so the console, software, accessory and of course PS+ sales.

It seem your interruption of what he was saying and not what he actually said. When he said "because of record breaking sales at launch." He directly saying that gain is from the ps4 hardware sales. He definitely implying that the cause was hardware and effect was the profit. Usage of the word "due to" means to single out a specific cause and "record breaking" is only the ps4. Unless he misspoke, I have the right to go by what he actual said and not what he could have meant.



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DerNebel on 08 February 2014
ninetailschris said:
DerNebel said:
ninetailschris said:
DerNebel said:

And those increased PS+ and Software sales can't be attributed to the PS4?


He was talking about the actual console sales were the reason. Ps+ really has nothing to do with the argument.

What he said was that the PS4 is the first Sony console that made them profit in its first quarter, he never said it was only because of console sales. When he said "record breaking launch of the PS4" I'm pretty sure he meant everything that came with that launch, so the console, software, accessory and of course PS+ sales.

It seem your interruption of what he was saying and not what he actually said. When he said "because of record breaking sales at launch." He directly saying that gain is from the ps4 hardware sales. He definitely implying that the cause was hardware and effect was the profit. Usage of the word "due to" means to single out a specific cause and "record breaking" is only the ps4. Unless he misspoke, I have the right to go by what he actual said and not what he could have meant.

First the bolded: What?

Second, dude Ethomaz' english is good but far from perfect (no offense to you, if you happen to read this Ethomaz), so a mistake like this wouldn't be surprising in this case. Also quite frankly it seems that you're interpreting a lot more than me if you think that he seriously meant console sales only.



Dark_Feanor on 08 February 2014

Easy, because it's not making tons of money, and will take a few quarters to do so and only if things go as planed.

Any way, the PS4 didn't brake the hardcore to casual barier, sales are no close to 2007 Wii level. There are more people talking about "Flap Birds" than "Infamous SS".



michael_stutzer on 08 February 2014
Dark_Feanor said:
Easy, because it's not making tons of money, and will take a few quarters to do so and only if things go as planed.

Any way, the PS4 didn't brake the hardcore to casual barier, sales are no close to 2007 Wii level. There are more people talking about "Flap Birds" than "Infamous SS".

True, they are actually quite a bit bigger than that. Without a Japan launch.



chapset on 08 February 2014

Probably fanboys talking shit, before the ps4 Sony was swimming in money and noy they lose 1.1billion



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Sal.Paradise on 08 February 2014

An amazing turnaround from PS3 launch. I remember when there was 'no way' Sony would launch cheaper or more powerful than the competition because they couldn't afford the losses it would generate.



ninetailschris on 08 February 2014
DerNebel said:
ninetailschris said:
DerNebel said:
ninetailschris said:
DerNebel said:

And those increased PS+ and Software sales can't be attributed to the PS4?


He was talking about the actual console sales were the reason. Ps+ really has nothing to do with the argument.

What he said was that the PS4 is the first Sony console that made them profit in its first quarter, he never said it was only because of console sales. When he said "record breaking launch of the PS4" I'm pretty sure he meant everything that came with that launch, so the console, software, accessory and of course PS+ sales.

It seem your interruption of what he was saying and not what he actually said. When he said "because of record breaking sales at launch." He directly saying that gain is from the ps4 hardware sales. He definitely implying that the cause was hardware and effect was the profit. Usage of the word "due to" means to single out a specific cause and "record breaking" is only the ps4. Unless he misspoke, I have the right to go by what he actual said and not what he could have meant.

First the bolded: What?

Second, dude Ethomaz' english is good but far from perfect (no offense to you, if you happen to read this Ethomaz), so a mistake like this wouldn't be surprising in this case. Also quite frankly it seems that you're interpreting a lot more than me if you think that he seriously meant console sales only.


Lol 'interpretation' my bad. I don't know if I'm tired or my iPad auto correcting me.

If you read my post and you admit his poor grammar than your agreeing with me. I said that he could have misspoke and based on that my response was valid because it was based on what he wrote. Unless I know the guy, there is no way I am going to respond in a manner that takes this into consideration. 

On the final point, that mine interpretation is more complex. My taking his post literally, your is taking into account a personally and how actual thinks/types. Your interpretation requires an assumption on how a person thinks, that simply can't proven unless he states it himself. 




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DamnTastic on 08 February 2014
ninetailschris said:
ethomaz said:

drkohler said:

 obviously we have: More (PS3+Ps4) sold than last year. PS3 still sold at full price here over XMas, so less sales but more profit. PS4, with PS+ and games is profitable, too, fewer Vaios equaled less loss, relatively low r%D ccosts, so all in all a considerable increase in profits of the division. 

 

Vaios is other division.

BTW PS4 is the first console from Sony to make the first Q post profit instead loss due the record breaking at launch.


You do realize that doesn't make sense. Ps+ is making it profitable and software maybe.

that comment doesn't make sense.



Dark_Feanor on 08 February 2014
michael_stutzer said:
Dark_Feanor said:
Easy, because it's not making tons of money, and will take a few quarters to do so and only if things go as planed.

Any way, the PS4 didn't brake the hardcore to casual barier, sales are no close to 2007 Wii level. There are more people talking about "Flap Birds" than "Infamous SS".

True, they are actually quite a bit bigger than that. Without a Japan launch.


Not according to those grafs http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=177775&page=1 

And let's not forget the Wii was in a severe shortage back then, Ebay prices went as high as US$600



dsp333 on 08 February 2014

If Sony is already profiting on the PS4 this early in it's life, I can't imagine what the profit margin is going to look in year 4 and 5. Holy shit.