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  • “Even excluding our next-gen business, our current-gen performance is strong and growing as well,” he tells us. GTAV was an obvious highlight, and there were surprises that outperformed Amazon’s sales forecasts – The Last Of Us and the Skylanders games sold better than expected, and an exclusivity deal with Warner on LEGO Marvel Super Heroes ensured that Amazon was “very happy” with the performance of that title.
  • There were also releases which didn’t meet expectations. “Well, I presume it’s more of a segment issue, but Call Of Duty didn’t perform to the level of its predecessors,” says Patel. “I think there are a number of reasons – there is a bit of fatigue in the franchise, and obviously next-gen has influenced things. I think there has been a consumer reluctance to buy into next-gen to the same extent as current gen so I think people are waiting. Generally, if you look at a lot of the franchises – Call Of Duty, Assassin’s Creed, Battlefield – they all struggled on current-gen formats more than you’d expect.”
  • PS4 and Xbox One are digital storefronts in themselves, of course. One would expect outlets like Amazon to curse the very name of PSN and Live, then, as they’ll increasingly remove the need for retail. Not so at Amazon, says Patel. “We’re selling Live and PSN games and they’re doing very well,” he tells us. “What we’re seeing is not a cannibalisation of our physical business but we’re actually seeing incrementality. We’ve seen only a small downturn in our physical business and we’ve got all of the digital business on top of that, so at this point in time it’s actually driving our category rather than diminishing it.”
  • In any case, existing Android consoles like Ouya and GameStick represent a very small proportion of Amazon’s games business, says Patel. “They’ve performed to the level that we’d expect them to perform,” he says, diplomatically. “Personally, I don’t think there’s a huge market for that so I wouldn’t say they’ve underperformed but I also wouldn’t say they’ve set the world on fire. In the context of quarter four – October, November, December – they’re such a small proportion of our total business, which was driven by next-gen activity, that they haven’t really moved the needle. And you wouldn’t expect them to either.”
  • “Contrary to a lot of people’s opinion, Nintendo is here to stay and Nintendo will do very well this year,” he told us. “They’re not going to meet their expectations, absolutely, but they’ve still got strong franchises and strong hardware and if you look at the back end of last year when they had a fairly good release slate, it certainly drove their hardware. 3DS has done very well for us so that format is here to stay.”
  •  “I think Nintendo have this imposed on them and it’s driven by a lot of the media, and the media drives perception,” continued Patel. “Nintendo are getting a lot of bad press and PR and as soon as anything negative is out there it’s a media frenzy. It diminishes what they’ve actually done. If you look at 3DS as a format, it has done very well last year – had that sort of performance been with Microsoft or Sony, my personal opinion is that everybody would be thinking ‘wow, what a fantastic job’. Because it’s Nintendo and they’ve been embroiled in this negative PR frenzy, everyone thinks it’s a dying format. It’s absolutely not.”
  • “Vita is struggling, absolutely, in terms of the market segment,” he tells us. “Firstly I think that the price point is too high. I think the compatibility with PS4 will give it a bit of a kickstart and Vita will have a better year, I just don’t know whether it will meet the expectations Sony had with Vita.”
  • Sony’s home console isn’t having any difficulties; PS4 sales through Amazon.co.uk have outstripped its rival Xbox One, a reflection of the hardware sales ratios Sony UK took great delight in revealing last week. “If you look at our bestsellers chart PS4 always has been, and still is, our number one best seller,” says Patel. “Xbox One will fall somewhere within the top five. Obviously one console has outperformed the other generally and we probably confirm that split between the two.”
  • Microsoft must now close that gap. Hopes are being pinned on the arrival of Respawn’s Titanfall to help do that, but even the arrival of a big-name shooter – and all the hype which surrounds it – might not be enough, says Patel. “[Titanfall] will be a big driver. I think Microsoft have got themselves a big coup there in negotiating that with EA. It will help close the gap, but personally speaking I think that gap is quite a big one at the moment. There’s a lot of catching up to do.”
  • The next big releases for Amazon include Watch Dogs and Destiny, though there are lingering doubts over when both might arrive. A second wave of true next-gen titles will come later on in the year, says Patel, so players can expect “a big slew of new titles and new IPs” near Christmas, PS4 and Xbox One’s respective release slates looking relatively sparse until then.

http://www.edge-online.com/news/amazon-uk-on-the-next-gen-race-nintendos-plight-microconsole-rumours-and-accidental-leaks/

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Nice, I'm curious how much Titanfall closes the gap too, will be interesting to watch.



“I think Nintendo have this imposed on them and it’s driven by a lot of the media, and the media drives perception,” continued Patel. “Nintendo are getting a lot of bad press and PR and as soon as anything negative is out there it’s a media frenzy. It diminishes what they’ve actually done. If you look at 3DS as a format, it has done very well last year – had that sort of performance been with Microsoft or Sony, my personal opinion is that everybody would be thinking ‘wow, what a fantastic job’. Because it’s Nintendo and they’ve been embroiled in this negative PR frenzy, everyone thinks it’s a dying format. It’s absolutely not.”

at whoever who wrote that, thank you for making sense.



Great read, thanks for posting.



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I hope this is proof enough for some people. The media is clearly biased against Nintendo, it's not even funny.



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Anfebious said:
I hope this is proof enough for some people. The media is clearly biased against Nintendo, it's not even funny.

Nintendo is not helping too... they are not delivering with Wii U what they always did.