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dane007 on 03 February 2014
ethomaz said:
dane007 said:
ethomaz said:
dane007 said:
ethomaz said:
dane007 said:
@ethomaz according to vg chartz in US its only by 130 k and UK by 190k. Thats not alot considering ps4 is 100 dollars cheaper. the fact that xbox one managed to hold its ground despite being a 500 dollar console is pretty impressive.

The fact PS4 is winning in US and UK just shows how impressive the machine is with more and better quality games... nobody ever expected that.

I can say to you even if PS4 launched in 13 countries and Xbone in 50 the PS4 gap should be the same... no matter how much countries a game machine launched when it is winning by a good margin in every single one.


Lol doubt it ..we can never find taht out. teh fact in 13 countries the difference being only 500k goes to show how strngtheps brand at this moment.its not as strong as it ws once was back in the ps2 days. Are you chuck norris from the future cause at this moment you are predicting teh impossible. heck you are passing your opinion as true facts lol. Wheres yoru evidence to prove your so called true theory?lol

The difference in 13 countries is bigger than 700k... In fact it is close to 1 million right now.

US 200k, UK 170k, DE 150k, FR 100k, ES 150k... just to begin with.

PS4 on 13 countries should sold more in these countries because it is right now supply coinstrained... instead of 2m in US could be 2.5m... instead 600k in UK could be 1 million...

PS4 is winning even if you got only the 13 countries... Xbone should never win no matter how many countries it launched... it is a weak argument when it can't hold neither UK or US the biggest Xbone countries.

The GAP will increase to 3 million before March.


I don't where you got your figures from US but according to vgchartz ,, since launch ps4 has sold a total of 2,194,794 and xbox one has a total of  2,064,549.

NOW 2194794(ps4)  MINUS 2064549(XBOX ONE) does not equal 200k . In fatc is about 130 K. 

For UK

Ps4 --- 609,461

Xboxone --- 417,230

difference is === 192231

Funny thing you gave spain figures when you only know how much ps4 sold . theres has no been any release of MS figures for spain . Anyone can say 5:1 but until it comes from MSteh figures of difference is unofficail.

You got correct for france and germany. was getting worried you didn't know basic matths.

Where did you get teh DE figure from? it does not exist on site . i guess you madde it up right?

Don't forget MS won in aus and it sold 70k. sony didn't specify a number but said that it fell short of MS number. Even if you include your made Spain numbers and waht has been calculed  its only 700ish k. the remaining 8000 k unaacounted ffor are attribute to teh additional 40 countries that teh ps4 is available in. Show me proof as to where you got your figures?

Official trackers

NPD PS4: 1135k + 865k / NPD Xbone: 909k + 908k

Spain GFK: 180k vs 38k

You can remove all 40 countries... PS4 win by a huge margin yet even with supply issues #FACT

Your denial just shows how out of subject you are.


Wheres teh link to amount of PS4 sold in NOV by NPD. I googled and couldn't find it . its only MS released their figures. All we know is that it sold 1 million. Please provide link and not madeup figures. Even if you use teh above figures for  US ,, teh difference is still 183000 not 200k. Big difference.  Where did you get dec NPD figures for pS4 since it was never released? Link please.

 Only MS released their figures. Nice try but yoru argument is mute. There are no figures for both Nov and dec for ps4  according to NPD. For all we know Vgchartz could be accurate which is 10k difference. 

 

Again wheres teh link to where you go t official xbox one figrues for spain?? Seems liek you made them up just to fit your arguement. Nice try though. Better luck next time



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ethomaz on 03 February 2014
dane007 said:
thats true .. it won't take over ten hours.those games are very short. i finished contrast with all trophies in less then 2 hour lol. that depends which AAA you are referring to. D3 takes 20 hours or more, forza even longer , ryse on hard is about close to 15,, can't say for zoo tycoon , crimson dragon and other xbox one launch exclusives as i have yet to own them. Even Killzone is decent in length. don't know about knack as i hate that game lol. The fact is some of these indie games are not cheap. Even though you get free ,, its still not free as you pay onlien but games liek sound shapes, escape plan and so on are not cheap and those games are short especially escape plan as i have the vita version of it

Sound Shapes and Escape Plan are free if you had other version (Vita or PS3).

I took some 5 hours to get all trophies in Contrast... Don't Starve I already played over 20 hours and I'm not close to get all trophies... you can't take all the trophies in Flower with less than 5 hours too.

I think all these games had a good length for free... better than mostly $60 AAA games (took me less than 10 hours to got all SP trophies)... Killzone had a short and boring SP... the MP holds the replay value on it.



ethomaz on 03 February 2014
dane007 said:
ethomaz said:
dane007 said:
ethomaz said:
dane007 said:
ethomaz said:
dane007 said:
@ethomaz according to vg chartz in US its only by 130 k and UK by 190k. Thats not alot considering ps4 is 100 dollars cheaper. the fact that xbox one managed to hold its ground despite being a 500 dollar console is pretty impressive.

The fact PS4 is winning in US and UK just shows how impressive the machine is with more and better quality games... nobody ever expected that.

I can say to you even if PS4 launched in 13 countries and Xbone in 50 the PS4 gap should be the same... no matter how much countries a game machine launched when it is winning by a good margin in every single one.


Lol doubt it ..we can never find taht out. teh fact in 13 countries the difference being only 500k goes to show how strngtheps brand at this moment.its not as strong as it ws once was back in the ps2 days. Are you chuck norris from the future cause at this moment you are predicting teh impossible. heck you are passing your opinion as true facts lol. Wheres yoru evidence to prove your so called true theory?lol

The difference in 13 countries is bigger than 700k... In fact it is close to 1 million right now.

US 200k, UK 170k, DE 150k, FR 100k, ES 150k... just to begin with.

PS4 on 13 countries should sold more in these countries because it is right now supply coinstrained... instead of 2m in US could be 2.5m... instead 600k in UK could be 1 million...

PS4 is winning even if you got only the 13 countries... Xbone should never win no matter how many countries it launched... it is a weak argument when it can't hold neither UK or US the biggest Xbone countries.

The GAP will increase to 3 million before March.


I don't where you got your figures from US but according to vgchartz ,, since launch ps4 has sold a total of 2,194,794 and xbox one has a total of  2,064,549.

NOW 2194794(ps4)  MINUS 2064549(XBOX ONE) does not equal 200k . In fatc is about 130 K. 

For UK

Ps4 --- 609,461

Xboxone --- 417,230

difference is === 192231

Funny thing you gave spain figures when you only know how much ps4 sold . theres has no been any release of MS figures for spain . Anyone can say 5:1 but until it comes from MSteh figures of difference is unofficail.

You got correct for france and germany. was getting worried you didn't know basic matths.

Where did you get teh DE figure from? it does not exist on site . i guess you madde it up right?

Don't forget MS won in aus and it sold 70k. sony didn't specify a number but said that it fell short of MS number. Even if you include your made Spain numbers and waht has been calculed  its only 700ish k. the remaining 8000 k unaacounted ffor are attribute to teh additional 40 countries that teh ps4 is available in. Show me proof as to where you got your figures?

Official trackers

NPD PS4: 1135k + 865k / NPD Xbone: 909k + 908k

Spain GFK: 180k vs 38k

You can remove all 40 countries... PS4 win by a huge margin yet even with supply issues #FACT

Your denial just shows how out of subject you are.


Wheres teh link to amount of PS4 sold in NOV by NPD. I googled and couldn't find it . its only MS released their figures. All we know is that it sold 1 million. Please provide link and not madeup figures. Even if you use teh above figures for  US ,, teh difference is still 183000 not 200k. Big difference.  Where did you get dec NPD figures for pS4 since it was never released? Link please.

 Only MS released their figures. Nice try but yoru argument is mute. There are no figures for both Nov and dec for ps4  according to NPD. For all we know Vgchartz could be accurate which is 10k difference. 

 

Again wheres teh link to where you go t official xbox one figrues for spain?? Seems liek you made them up just to fit your arguement. Nice try though. Better luck next time

The numbers are not made up... Aqua on GAF leaked them.

MS figures are based on 5:1 official ratio in Spain... try again.

The denial is strong on you lol all official numbers shows PS4 is killing in sales in these countries and you don't believe lol

The gap is big because PS4 won in the places MS never expected: US and UK... these two countries put the gap close to 400k alone.



dane007 on 03 February 2014
ethomaz said:
dane007 said:
ethomaz said:
dane007 said:
ethomaz said:
dane007 said:
ethomaz said:
dane007 said:
@ethomaz according to vg chartz in US its only by 130 k and UK by 190k. Thats not alot considering ps4 is 100 dollars cheaper. the fact that xbox one managed to hold its ground despite being a 500 dollar console is pretty impressive.

The fact PS4 is winning in US and UK just shows how impressive the machine is with more and better quality games... nobody ever expected that.

I can say to you even if PS4 launched in 13 countries and Xbone in 50 the PS4 gap should be the same... no matter how much countries a game machine launched when it is winning by a good margin in every single one.


Again what is considered as quality game is purely subjective. Afterall i got the ps4 with those games and it only has 2 AAAs and teh rest all short Indies. I rather have full  AAA games then a 2 hour or so indie as its more value fo rmoney.  PS4 highest rated game according to metacritic is a game released alread on ps . if i am not mistaken its flower and the ps4 version just has better resolution. i wouldn't call that quality.Heck Killzone doesn't even have a metacritic of 75 and even worse for knack lol. two big sony exclusives at launch lol.  Its too early to say who won at the moment.wait till bboth consoles have releaed in all their terroritories first then make a judgement.  Afterall if teh ps can make a comback after 8 years,, surely MS can to. Finally who cares who comes first or second,,its waht the games yo uget .. Having the ability to own  consoles is a luxury and pretty awesome as you don't have limitation and you get hav ea taste of both worlds which i am looking forward this gen

Flower is 60fps on PS4 too... play it to understand why it receveing better scores on PS4 than PS3... I was WOW in how better it plays and look on PS4... it is the same game but plays and fell different (for better).

The second highest launch exclusive is RESOGUN (another PS4 game)... after Dead Rising 3... Warframe is in the top spot too but you can play it on PC... Don't Starve the same... you can spin like you want but the fact PS4 have right now more games and better quality games...

They can not fit in your taste? Of course but your taste don't make the PS4 games worst for everybody else... just for you.


Again its subjective as thast yoru personal preference. I have played flower on teh ps3 and i foudn it to be noting special and after finishing the game i didn't want to waste additonal 10 dollars for game with slightly bumped visuals and 60fps. I rather spend that 10 bucks and get another month of playstation plus.  I have  all these so called awesomee gameson teh ps4. but to me they are boring. war frameis jsut a corridor game where you run from oneend ot another with bland combat  and with balnd objetives and bland sotry.  The only one iliek alot from that list is resogun. Sure its fun but how many times can you keep playing teh samelevel over and over and over again? Surely teh fun factor would be goenafter 100th time of play through. Don't starve is not for everyone. i don't see teh apepeal of tryign to last as long as possible buy collecting resources. If i had to do that ,, i rather play minecraft.  In fact i would rather play DR3 then allthe games you mentioned combined. Plus gamesliek don't starve , flower, contrast all are shor games .. They don't alast more then 3 hours . Flower is especially short and not 10 bucks twice. All of what i mentioned is my opinion .. congrats to you for loving thses games but don't try to push your opion as fact to other people as opinion does not equal fact.  I never said don't get a ps4 .. i just  tlaked about my experience as i own both consoles and to meat this moment ps4 is lacking games ,, big multiplehour games .

Metacritic agree with me... so it is my personal preference off or yours?

BTW Flower is free if you had the PS3 version... you don't need to pay extra $10 lol

you do know metacritic score based on reviwers are biased right? you know reviews from sites like  vgchartz, ign , eurogamer,, gamepot an so on are purely subjective. just because they love it,, doesn't mean i would love it or anyone else. ah kk , will get since it free.been to busy with AC4 on my xbox one.thx for that lol

Yeap but avg. subjective scores is better than one single score.

BTW I already said your taste/option is fine but it didn't change the fact PS4 had more games with better quality... you have more to play on PS4 than Xbone... you playing AC4 on Xbone just prove my point... I didn't have time to touch any multiplatform game since launch and I already have a considered back log on PS4 only with exclusives or console exclusives.


I chose AC4 on xbox as i have played previous iteration of AC series on xbox 30 . You get stuff from completing the previosu games . On ps4 atm i got dc online ,,kilzzone 4, contrast, don't starve, resogun, war frame, blacklight retribution beta, war thunder, need for speed rivals, the two  pin ball games. I have finished Killzone 4, contrast and don't starve. You can't really finish resogun, blacklight retribution , war thunder and teh two pinball games as you have pay for teh table to enjoythe pinball games.   i didn't  get flower as i have it onp3 ,, i didn't get escapeplan as i have it on my ps vita .Apart from taht on teh psn store yo only have 3 new ones there which i am not willign to pay a hug esumof cash fro a shirt indie game. For me i rather invest those resources into extendingmy ps plu s membership.  Haven't finished Need for speed as its a big game.

 

On xbox one i have ryse, killer instinct ultimate edition, ac4, forza5, dead rising3, power shot golf, peggle 2. nbak 2k14, fifa 2014 .  As you can here my ps4 list mainly one AAA exclusives since ps4 only has 2. One multiplatform,  Two beta( WHICH don't count as there not full games), three indies where two are incredibly short and one that cannot be finished and two pinball game that s only free ot trial it out otherwise you hav eto pay so the don't count.  However Xbox one has big AAA games and more big AAA exclusives at launch. Thats what i meant by no games. I want AAA exclusives not a library of short indies and betas



ethomaz on 03 February 2014
dane007 said:
ethomaz said:
dane007 said:
ethomaz said:
dane007 said:
ethomaz said:
dane007 said:
ethomaz said:
dane007 said:
@ethomaz according to vg chartz in US its only by 130 k and UK by 190k. Thats not alot considering ps4 is 100 dollars cheaper. the fact that xbox one managed to hold its ground despite being a 500 dollar console is pretty impressive.

The fact PS4 is winning in US and UK just shows how impressive the machine is with more and better quality games... nobody ever expected that.

I can say to you even if PS4 launched in 13 countries and Xbone in 50 the PS4 gap should be the same... no matter how much countries a game machine launched when it is winning by a good margin in every single one.


Again what is considered as quality game is purely subjective. Afterall i got the ps4 with those games and it only has 2 AAAs and teh rest all short Indies. I rather have full  AAA games then a 2 hour or so indie as its more value fo rmoney.  PS4 highest rated game according to metacritic is a game released alread on ps . if i am not mistaken its flower and the ps4 version just has better resolution. i wouldn't call that quality.Heck Killzone doesn't even have a metacritic of 75 and even worse for knack lol. two big sony exclusives at launch lol.  Its too early to say who won at the moment.wait till bboth consoles have releaed in all their terroritories first then make a judgement.  Afterall if teh ps can make a comback after 8 years,, surely MS can to. Finally who cares who comes first or second,,its waht the games yo uget .. Having the ability to own  consoles is a luxury and pretty awesome as you don't have limitation and you get hav ea taste of both worlds which i am looking forward this gen

Flower is 60fps on PS4 too... play it to understand why it receveing better scores on PS4 than PS3... I was WOW in how better it plays and look on PS4... it is the same game but plays and fell different (for better).

The second highest launch exclusive is RESOGUN (another PS4 game)... after Dead Rising 3... Warframe is in the top spot too but you can play it on PC... Don't Starve the same... you can spin like you want but the fact PS4 have right now more games and better quality games...

They can not fit in your taste? Of course but your taste don't make the PS4 games worst for everybody else... just for you.


Again its subjective as thast yoru personal preference. I have played flower on teh ps3 and i foudn it to be noting special and after finishing the game i didn't want to waste additonal 10 dollars for game with slightly bumped visuals and 60fps. I rather spend that 10 bucks and get another month of playstation plus.  I have  all these so called awesomee gameson teh ps4. but to me they are boring. war frameis jsut a corridor game where you run from oneend ot another with bland combat  and with balnd objetives and bland sotry.  The only one iliek alot from that list is resogun. Sure its fun but how many times can you keep playing teh samelevel over and over and over again? Surely teh fun factor would be goenafter 100th time of play through. Don't starve is not for everyone. i don't see teh apepeal of tryign to last as long as possible buy collecting resources. If i had to do that ,, i rather play minecraft.  In fact i would rather play DR3 then allthe games you mentioned combined. Plus gamesliek don't starve , flower, contrast all are shor games .. They don't alast more then 3 hours . Flower is especially short and not 10 bucks twice. All of what i mentioned is my opinion .. congrats to you for loving thses games but don't try to push your opion as fact to other people as opinion does not equal fact.  I never said don't get a ps4 .. i just  tlaked about my experience as i own both consoles and to meat this moment ps4 is lacking games ,, big multiplehour games .

Metacritic agree with me... so it is my personal preference off or yours?

BTW Flower is free if you had the PS3 version... you don't need to pay extra $10 lol

you do know metacritic score based on reviwers are biased right? you know reviews from sites like  vgchartz, ign , eurogamer,, gamepot an so on are purely subjective. just because they love it,, doesn't mean i would love it or anyone else. ah kk , will get since it free.been to busy with AC4 on my xbox one.thx for that lol

Yeap but avg. subjective scores is better than one single score.

BTW I already said your taste/option is fine but it didn't change the fact PS4 had more games with better quality... you have more to play on PS4 than Xbone... you playing AC4 on Xbone just prove my point... I didn't have time to touch any multiplatform game since launch and I already have a considered back log on PS4 only with exclusives or console exclusives.


I chose AC4 on xbox as i have played previous iteration of AC series on xbox 30 . You get stuff from completing the previosu games . On ps4 atm i got dc online ,,kilzzone 4, contrast, don't starve, resogun, war frame, blacklight retribution beta, war thunder, need for speed rivals, the two  pin ball games. I have finished Killzone 4, contrast and don't starve. You can't really finish resogun, blacklight retribution , war thunder and teh two pinball games as you have pay for teh table to enjoythe pinball games.   i didn't  get flower as i have it onp3 ,, i didn't get escapeplan as i have it on my ps vita .Apart from taht on teh psn store yo only have 3 new ones there which i am not willign to pay a hug esumof cash fro a shirt indie game. For me i rather invest those resources into extendingmy ps plu s membership.  Haven't finished Need for speed as its a big game.

 

On xbox one i have ryse, killer instinct ultimate edition, ac4, forza5, dead rising3, power shot golf, peggle 2. nbak 2k14, fifa 2014 .  As you can here my ps4 list mainly one AAA exclusives since ps4 only has 2. One multiplatform,  Two beta( WHICH don't count as there not full games), three indies where two are incredibly short and one that cannot be finished and two pinball game that s only free ot trial it out otherwise you hav eto pay so the don't count.  However Xbox one has big AAA games and more big AAA exclusives at launch. Thats what i meant by no games. I want AAA exclusives not a library of short indies and betas

I want games mainly because I'm a gamer and not a AAA-gamer... see your taste is just your taste... PS4 still had more games and rated better... your or mine opinion didn't change that.



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dane007 on 03 February 2014
ethomaz said:
dane007 said:
ethomaz said:
dane007 said:
ethomaz said:
dane007 said:
ethomaz said:
dane007 said:
@ethomaz according to vg chartz in US its only by 130 k and UK by 190k. Thats not alot considering ps4 is 100 dollars cheaper. the fact that xbox one managed to hold its ground despite being a 500 dollar console is pretty impressive.

The fact PS4 is winning in US and UK just shows how impressive the machine is with more and better quality games... nobody ever expected that.

I can say to you even if PS4 launched in 13 countries and Xbone in 50 the PS4 gap should be the same... no matter how much countries a game machine launched when it is winning by a good margin in every single one.


Lol doubt it ..we can never find taht out. teh fact in 13 countries the difference being only 500k goes to show how strngtheps brand at this moment.its not as strong as it ws once was back in the ps2 days. Are you chuck norris from the future cause at this moment you are predicting teh impossible. heck you are passing your opinion as true facts lol. Wheres yoru evidence to prove your so called true theory?lol

The difference in 13 countries is bigger than 700k... In fact it is close to 1 million right now.

US 200k, UK 170k, DE 150k, FR 100k, ES 150k... just to begin with.

PS4 on 13 countries should sold more in these countries because it is right now supply coinstrained... instead of 2m in US could be 2.5m... instead 600k in UK could be 1 million...

PS4 is winning even if you got only the 13 countries... Xbone should never win no matter how many countries it launched... it is a weak argument when it can't hold neither UK or US the biggest Xbone countries.

The GAP will increase to 3 million before March.


I don't where you got your figures from US but according to vgchartz ,, since launch ps4 has sold a total of 2,194,794 and xbox one has a total of  2,064,549.

NOW 2194794(ps4)  MINUS 2064549(XBOX ONE) does not equal 200k . In fatc is about 130 K. 

For UK

Ps4 --- 609,461

Xboxone --- 417,230

difference is === 192231

Funny thing you gave spain figures when you only know how much ps4 sold . theres has no been any release of MS figures for spain . Anyone can say 5:1 but until it comes from MSteh figures of difference is unofficail.

You got correct for france and germany. was getting worried you didn't know basic matths.

Where did you get teh DE figure from? it does not exist on site . i guess you madde it up right?

Don't forget MS won in aus and it sold 70k. sony didn't specify a number but said that it fell short of MS number. Even if you include your made Spain numbers and waht has been calculed  its only 700ish k. the remaining 8000 k unaacounted ffor are attribute to teh additional 40 countries that teh ps4 is available in. Show me proof as to where you got your figures?

Official trackers

NPD PS4: 1135k + 865k / NPD Xbone: 909k + 908k

Spain GFK: 180k vs 38k

You can remove all 40 countries... PS4 win by a huge margin yet even with supply issues #FACT

Your denial just shows how out of subject you are.


Wheres teh link to amount of PS4 sold in NOV by NPD. I googled and couldn't find it . its only MS released their figures. All we know is that it sold 1 million. Please provide link and not madeup figures. Even if you use teh above figures for  US ,, teh difference is still 183000 not 200k. Big difference.  Where did you get dec NPD figures for pS4 since it was never released? Link please.

 Only MS released their figures. Nice try but yoru argument is mute. There are no figures for both Nov and dec for ps4  according to NPD. For all we know Vgchartz could be accurate which is 10k difference. 

 

Again wheres teh link to where you go t official xbox one figrues for spain?? Seems liek you made them up just to fit your arguement. Nice try though. Better luck next time

The numbers are not made up... Aqua on GAF leaked them.

MS figures are based on 5:1 official ratio in Spain... try again.

The denial is strong on you lol all official numbers shows PS4 is killing in sales in these countries and you don't believe lol

The gap is big because PS4 won in the places MS never expected: US and UK... these two countries put the gap close to 400k alone.


Again the numbers haven't being confirmed by sony therefore leaks are to be taken with a grain salt until sony  fronts up with their figures. Until then nobody knows how much they sold ofr november nd dcember exactly.  Lol wheres teh link. Its easy to say 5:1 ration but can't provide offial figures confirmed by both parties. Only sony one is available in Spai nnot MS. Agin you failed to provide me with a link.  I do beleive ps4 ahead and it shoudlbe considerign its cheaper but the margin which you made up ,, is what i don't beleive. till you can provide me with those exct figures confirmed by both sony and mS ,, then those figures are completely fake apart from the NPD results from MS and the one for sony in spain.



WebMasterFlex on 03 February 2014

"at my dormatory"

Is this thread for real ? Or is it a joke. Anyway I prefer WW sales than "at your dormatory" lol.



ethomaz on 03 February 2014
dane007 said:
ethomaz said:
dane007 said:
ethomaz said:
dane007 said:
ethomaz said:
dane007 said:
ethomaz said:
dane007 said:
@ethomaz according to vg chartz in US its only by 130 k and UK by 190k. Thats not alot considering ps4 is 100 dollars cheaper. the fact that xbox one managed to hold its ground despite being a 500 dollar console is pretty impressive.

The fact PS4 is winning in US and UK just shows how impressive the machine is with more and better quality games... nobody ever expected that.

I can say to you even if PS4 launched in 13 countries and Xbone in 50 the PS4 gap should be the same... no matter how much countries a game machine launched when it is winning by a good margin in every single one.


Lol doubt it ..we can never find taht out. teh fact in 13 countries the difference being only 500k goes to show how strngtheps brand at this moment.its not as strong as it ws once was back in the ps2 days. Are you chuck norris from the future cause at this moment you are predicting teh impossible. heck you are passing your opinion as true facts lol. Wheres yoru evidence to prove your so called true theory?lol

The difference in 13 countries is bigger than 700k... In fact it is close to 1 million right now.

US 200k, UK 170k, DE 150k, FR 100k, ES 150k... just to begin with.

PS4 on 13 countries should sold more in these countries because it is right now supply coinstrained... instead of 2m in US could be 2.5m... instead 600k in UK could be 1 million...

PS4 is winning even if you got only the 13 countries... Xbone should never win no matter how many countries it launched... it is a weak argument when it can't hold neither UK or US the biggest Xbone countries.

The GAP will increase to 3 million before March.


I don't where you got your figures from US but according to vgchartz ,, since launch ps4 has sold a total of 2,194,794 and xbox one has a total of  2,064,549.

NOW 2194794(ps4)  MINUS 2064549(XBOX ONE) does not equal 200k . In fatc is about 130 K. 

For UK

Ps4 --- 609,461

Xboxone --- 417,230

difference is === 192231

Funny thing you gave spain figures when you only know how much ps4 sold . theres has no been any release of MS figures for spain . Anyone can say 5:1 but until it comes from MSteh figures of difference is unofficail.

You got correct for france and germany. was getting worried you didn't know basic matths.

Where did you get teh DE figure from? it does not exist on site . i guess you madde it up right?

Don't forget MS won in aus and it sold 70k. sony didn't specify a number but said that it fell short of MS number. Even if you include your made Spain numbers and waht has been calculed  its only 700ish k. the remaining 8000 k unaacounted ffor are attribute to teh additional 40 countries that teh ps4 is available in. Show me proof as to where you got your figures?

Official trackers

NPD PS4: 1135k + 865k / NPD Xbone: 909k + 908k

Spain GFK: 180k vs 38k

You can remove all 40 countries... PS4 win by a huge margin yet even with supply issues #FACT

Your denial just shows how out of subject you are.


Wheres teh link to amount of PS4 sold in NOV by NPD. I googled and couldn't find it . its only MS released their figures. All we know is that it sold 1 million. Please provide link and not madeup figures. Even if you use teh above figures for  US ,, teh difference is still 183000 not 200k. Big difference.  Where did you get dec NPD figures for pS4 since it was never released? Link please.

 Only MS released their figures. Nice try but yoru argument is mute. There are no figures for both Nov and dec for ps4  according to NPD. For all we know Vgchartz could be accurate which is 10k difference. 

 

Again wheres teh link to where you go t official xbox one figrues for spain?? Seems liek you made them up just to fit your arguement. Nice try though. Better luck next time

The numbers are not made up... Aqua on GAF leaked them.

MS figures are based on 5:1 official ratio in Spain... try again.

The denial is strong on you lol all official numbers shows PS4 is killing in sales in these countries and you don't believe lol

The gap is big because PS4 won in the places MS never expected: US and UK... these two countries put the gap close to 400k alone.


Again the numbers haven't being confirmed by sony therefore leaks are to be taken with a grain salt until sony  fronts up with their figures. Until then nobody knows how much they sold ofr november nd dcember exactly.  Lol wheres teh link. Its easy to say 5:1 ration but can't provide offial figures confirmed by both parties. Only sony one is available in Spai nnot MS. Agin you failed to provide me with a link.  I do beleive ps4 ahead and it shoudlbe considerign its cheaper but the margin which you made up ,, is what i don't beleive. till you can provide me with those exct figures confirmed by both sony and mS ,, then those figures are completely fake apart from the NPD results from MS and the one for sony in spain.

You did see I'm not even removing the quotes... I'm on phone lol it is hard to me give links for here but you can google because all numbers are true.

PS4 is winning in US and Spain... the gap is increasing right now.

Your trying defend your Xbone over something that is already fact... PS4 sales in the 13 countries Xbone release are unbeliever good and way over the competition... and IMO nothing will change that.



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@ethomaz according to vg chartz in US its only by 130 k and UK by 190k. Thats not alot considering ps4 is 100 dollars cheaper. the fact that xbox one managed to hold its ground despite being a 500 dollar console is pretty impressive.

The fact PS4 is winning in US and UK just shows how impressive the machine is with more and better quality games... nobody ever expected that.

I can say to you even if PS4 launched in 13 countries and Xbone in 50 the PS4 gap should be the same... no matter how much countries a game machine launched when it is winning by a good margin in every single one.


Again what is considered as quality game is purely subjective. Afterall i got the ps4 with those games and it only has 2 AAAs and teh rest all short Indies. I rather have full  AAA games then a 2 hour or so indie as its more value fo rmoney.  PS4 highest rated game according to metacritic is a game released alread on ps . if i am not mistaken its flower and the ps4 version just has better resolution. i wouldn't call that quality.Heck Killzone doesn't even have a metacritic of 75 and even worse for knack lol. two big sony exclusives at launch lol.  Its too early to say who won at the moment.wait till bboth consoles have releaed in all their terroritories first then make a judgement.  Afterall if teh ps can make a comback after 8 years,, surely MS can to. Finally who cares who comes first or second,,its waht the games yo uget .. Having the ability to own  consoles is a luxury and pretty awesome as you don't have limitation and you get hav ea taste of both worlds which i am looking forward this gen

Flower is 60fps on PS4 too... play it to understand why it receveing better scores on PS4 than PS3... I was WOW in how better it plays and look on PS4... it is the same game but plays and fell different (for better).

The second highest launch exclusive is RESOGUN (another PS4 game)... after Dead Rising 3... Warframe is in the top spot too but you can play it on PC... Don't Starve the same... you can spin like you want but the fact PS4 have right now more games and better quality games...

They can not fit in your taste? Of course but your taste don't make the PS4 games worst for everybody else... just for you.


Again its subjective as thast yoru personal preference. I have played flower on teh ps3 and i foudn it to be noting special and after finishing the game i didn't want to waste additonal 10 dollars for game with slightly bumped visuals and 60fps. I rather spend that 10 bucks and get another month of playstation plus.  I have  all these so called awesomee gameson teh ps4. but to me they are boring. war frameis jsut a corridor game where you run from oneend ot another with bland combat  and with balnd objetives and bland sotry.  The only one iliek alot from that list is resogun. Sure its fun but how many times can you keep playing teh samelevel over and over and over again? Surely teh fun factor would be goenafter 100th time of play through. Don't starve is not for everyone. i don't see teh apepeal of tryign to last as long as possible buy collecting resources. If i had to do that ,, i rather play minecraft.  In fact i would rather play DR3 then allthe games you mentioned combined. Plus gamesliek don't starve , flower, contrast all are shor games .. They don't alast more then 3 hours . Flower is especially short and not 10 bucks twice. All of what i mentioned is my opinion .. congrats to you for loving thses games but don't try to push your opion as fact to other people as opinion does not equal fact.  I never said don't get a ps4 .. i just  tlaked about my experience as i own both consoles and to meat this moment ps4 is lacking games ,, big multiplehour games .

Metacritic agree with me... so it is my personal preference off or yours?

BTW Flower is free if you had the PS3 version... you don't need to pay extra $10 lol

you do know metacritic score based on reviwers are biased right? you know reviews from sites like  vgchartz, ign , eurogamer,, gamepot an so on are purely subjective. just because they love it,, doesn't mean i would love it or anyone else. ah kk , will get since it free.been to busy with AC4 on my xbox one.thx for that lol

Yeap but avg. subjective scores is better than one single score.

BTW I already said your taste/option is fine but it didn't change the fact PS4 had more games with better quality... you have more to play on PS4 than Xbone... you playing AC4 on Xbone just prove my point... I didn't have time to touch any multiplatform game since launch and I already have a considered back log on PS4 only with exclusives or console exclusives.


I chose AC4 on xbox as i have played previous iteration of AC series on xbox 30 . You get stuff from completing the previosu games . On ps4 atm i got dc online ,,kilzzone 4, contrast, don't starve, resogun, war frame, blacklight retribution beta, war thunder, need for speed rivals, the two  pin ball games. I have finished Killzone 4, contrast and don't starve. You can't really finish resogun, blacklight retribution , war thunder and teh two pinball games as you have pay for teh table to enjoythe pinball games.   i didn't  get flower as i have it onp3 ,, i didn't get escapeplan as i have it on my ps vita .Apart from taht on teh psn store yo only have 3 new ones there which i am not willign to pay a hug esumof cash fro a shirt indie game. For me i rather invest those resources into extendingmy ps plu s membership.  Haven't finished Need for speed as its a big game.

 

On xbox one i have ryse, killer instinct ultimate edition, ac4, forza5, dead rising3, power shot golf, peggle 2. nbak 2k14, fifa 2014 .  As you can here my ps4 list mainly one AAA exclusives since ps4 only has 2. One multiplatform,  Two beta( WHICH don't count as there not full games), three indies where two are incredibly short and one that cannot be finished and two pinball game that s only free ot trial it out otherwise you hav eto pay so the don't count.  However Xbox one has big AAA games and more big AAA exclusives at launch. Thats what i meant by no games. I want AAA exclusives not a library of short indies and betas

I want games mainly because I'm a gamer and not a AAA-gamer... see your taste is just your taste... PS4 still had more games and rated better.

it only has two exclusives and 5 indies. Betas don't count as games. Xbox one has at least 10 exclusives to pick from.far more then two lol.A gamer would own all three machines adn enjoy an array of games presented on all machines and wouldn't care who sellign more and who is number or not. Thats being a true gamer. Again if  do gaming by allowing reviewers influencing their personal preference on you tehn you are not a gamer in my opinion.  You play teh game you want to play not baeause a reiewer liek i adn aid it was good lol .



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@ethomaz according to vg chartz in US its only by 130 k and UK by 190k. Thats not alot considering ps4 is 100 dollars cheaper. the fact that xbox one managed to hold its ground despite being a 500 dollar console is pretty impressive.

The fact PS4 is winning in US and UK just shows how impressive the machine is with more and better quality games... nobody ever expected that.

I can say to you even if PS4 launched in 13 countries and Xbone in 50 the PS4 gap should be the same... no matter how much countries a game machine launched when it is winning by a good margin in every single one.


Lol doubt it ..we can never find taht out. teh fact in 13 countries the difference being only 500k goes to show how strngtheps brand at this moment.its not as strong as it ws once was back in the ps2 days. Are you chuck norris from the future cause at this moment you are predicting teh impossible. heck you are passing your opinion as true facts lol. Wheres yoru evidence to prove your so called true theory?lol

The difference in 13 countries is bigger than 700k... In fact it is close to 1 million right now.

US 200k, UK 170k, DE 150k, FR 100k, ES 150k... just to begin with.

PS4 on 13 countries should sold more in these countries because it is right now supply coinstrained... instead of 2m in US could be 2.5m... instead 600k in UK could be 1 million...

PS4 is winning even if you got only the 13 countries... Xbone should never win no matter how many countries it launched... it is a weak argument when it can't hold neither UK or US the biggest Xbone countries.

The GAP will increase to 3 million before March.


I don't where you got your figures from US but according to vgchartz ,, since launch ps4 has sold a total of 2,194,794 and xbox one has a total of  2,064,549.

NOW 2194794(ps4)  MINUS 2064549(XBOX ONE) does not equal 200k . In fatc is about 130 K. 

For UK

Ps4 --- 609,461

Xboxone --- 417,230

difference is === 192231

Funny thing you gave spain figures when you only know how much ps4 sold . theres has no been any release of MS figures for spain . Anyone can say 5:1 but until it comes from MSteh figures of difference is unofficail.

You got correct for france and germany. was getting worried you didn't know basic matths.

Where did you get teh DE figure from? it does not exist on site . i guess you madde it up right?

Don't forget MS won in aus and it sold 70k. sony didn't specify a number but said that it fell short of MS number. Even if you include your made Spain numbers and waht has been calculed  its only 700ish k. the remaining 8000 k unaacounted ffor are attribute to teh additional 40 countries that teh ps4 is available in. Show me proof as to where you got your figures?

Official trackers

NPD PS4: 1135k + 865k / NPD Xbone: 909k + 908k

Spain GFK: 180k vs 38k

You can remove all 40 countries... PS4 win by a huge margin yet even with supply issues #FACT

Your denial just shows how out of subject you are.


Wheres teh link to amount of PS4 sold in NOV by NPD. I googled and couldn't find it . its only MS released their figures. All we know is that it sold 1 million. Please provide link and not madeup figures. Even if you use teh above figures for  US ,, teh difference is still 183000 not 200k. Big difference.  Where did you get dec NPD figures for pS4 since it was never released? Link please.

 Only MS released their figures. Nice try but yoru argument is mute. There are no figures for both Nov and dec for ps4  according to NPD. For all we know Vgchartz could be accurate which is 10k difference. 

 

Again wheres teh link to where you go t official xbox one figrues for spain?? Seems liek you made them up just to fit your arguement. Nice try though. Better luck next time

The numbers are not made up... Aqua on GAF leaked them.

MS figures are based on 5:1 official ratio in Spain... try again.

The denial is strong on you lol all official numbers shows PS4 is killing in sales in these countries and you don't believe lol

The gap is big because PS4 won in the places MS never expected: US and UK... these two countries put the gap close to 400k alone.


Again the numbers haven't being confirmed by sony therefore leaks are to be taken with a grain salt until sony  fronts up with their figures. Until then nobody knows how much they sold ofr november nd dcember exactly.  Lol wheres teh link. Its easy to say 5:1 ration but can't provide offial figures confirmed by both parties. Only sony one is available in Spai nnot MS. Agin you failed to provide me with a link.  I do beleive ps4 ahead and it shoudlbe considerign its cheaper but the margin which you made up ,, is what i don't beleive. till you can provide me with those exct figures confirmed by both sony and mS ,, then those figures are completely fake apart from the NPD results from MS and the one for sony in spain.

You did see I'm not even removing the quotes... I'm on phone lol it is hard to me give links for here but you can google because all numbers are true.

PS4 is winning in US and Spain... the gap is increasing right now.

Those are just excuese and obviously you are not paying attention.i have said i have googled them andcouldn't thoe magical figures you mentioned there. If they do exist and yo uare confident  yo are right,, then  by all means prove ti ? hat are you afraid of?