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Cobretti2 said:
Anfebious said:

Wow Kwaidd's post made me realize something important. He is completely right about Ubisoft, Rayman Legends was an excellent game. There is no reason to doubt them. Yes, they delayed Rayman Legends, but it was an incredible game so it was worth the wait!

I think we should all stop attacking Ubisoft and vote with our wallets. Let's all go and buy Watch Dogs the day it releases on Wii U, oh and the DLC too if it ever releases for the Wii U version.


I been saying it for ages for the one inconveniance of a delay, Ubisoft annouced 3 great triple A games. Best part my guit tripping convinced one guy on here to buy Rayman Legends wooo.  So peer pressure is the key. Lets start toughening up on shit excuses for why people are not buying good 3rd party support. And convert these vocal 3rd party gae wanters into wallet voting gamers.


the only reason why people make bullshit excuses is becasue they dont want to admit these games are simply not as popular on Ninty platforms as ohters. PS4/one/WIi U proves it without a shadow of a doubt. I bet half the people here deep down inside know that to be the truth because they are the ones we talk about that dont care about these types of games, but its a child mentality. I want x game becasue the OTHER guys have it, not because i really want it.

TO the people that do care like yourself. I'm truly sorry, but you are in the minority and at the end of the day majority rules and if the majority doesnt care then thats that. 



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prayformojo said:
SubiyaCryolite said:
prayformojo said:
Fusioncode said:
superchunk said:
This means Nintendo needs to pay for it or its not happening. Forget it. I following Rol and only buying Nintendo published games.

And that's precisely the reason why 3rd parties are avoiding the WiiU like the plague. Why would they waste time and money porting a game over if nobody bothers to buy?


That is a bold face lie by them. You want to know the real reason why the Wii-U is struggling so hard to attract these huge third party publishers? It's because they can't release half games for full price and sell the other half via DLC due to Nintendo only throwing 32GB in the system. It's the same reason EA left. They wanted to screw people over with their microtransaction bullshit and cram Orgin down their throats. Nintendo doesn't allow for that sort of thing by choice, or design.

In a way, this is exposing the truth about modern AAA publishers. It's letting us see who's who. There use to be a time when the line of thinking was "come up with great original idea, make great game with as much content as humanly possible to entertain the gamer, profit". Now it's mostly "create product, market product, make as much profit as possible from product, repeat". The game industry has become the movie industry now.

It's basically Nintendo and indie devs that still do it the old way, the RIGHT way. Unfortunately, greed is taking over.

Its not a crime for publishers to want to make a profit and DLC is just an optional add on, you can be perfectly fine without it. I bought Skyrim for example and have no intention of getting its expansions. I have Steet Fighter IV AE and dont care about those stupid costumes, or this years update either. But DLC allows those who do to get them, to each their own, everyone wins.

DLC is optional and probably not even purchased by the majority of consumers so thats no Reason for EA or anyone else to skip the U. The platform just isnt economically viable for them yet, plain and simple.


Why are you and so many people trusting of corporations like EA, who couldn't give two shits about you? I'm not trying to be a dick here, I'm honestly curious. I just don't understand how this isn't obvious to people lol.

DLC was a scam from day ONE. The idea of DLC was first used to support a product once it left the developers hands. It was suppose to IMPROVE gaming. But like everything else invented for good, capitalists got a hold of it and whored it to hell for profit.

Funny coming from the guy who is defending Nintendo like its a family member. You know they dont give two shits about you right?

And nobody was defending anyone.



I hope it's still coming because Ubisoft has been great at utilizing the Gamepad creatively, and Watch Dogs is tailor-made for this approach. What Nintendo would have to do thereafter is actually spend some money on advertising for their own version of a commercial.

For example, most people know that COD comes to all consoles, but that doesn't stop Microsoft from making sure that there is a TV ad that only features the Xbox logo at the end. This goes a long way to drawing an association with a game to a particular console. Nintendo would greatly benefit to go this route with Watch Dogs. Something like COD would be wasted by this approach. But a commercial for Watch Dogs, something that is not established on other systems yet, that showed extensive Gamepad functionality would be a brilliant move because the game itself features the use of a handheld device with a screen on it.

Even if Ubisoft had their own ad that had all of the console logos present at the end, such a commercial from Ninty themselves with the ending featuring only the WiiU console would help to establish the WiiU version as a unique experience.



prayformojo said:
SubiyaCryolite said:
prayformojo said:
Fusioncode said:
superchunk said:
This means Nintendo needs to pay for it or its not happening. Forget it. I following Rol and only buying Nintendo published games.

And that's precisely the reason why 3rd parties are avoiding the WiiU like the plague. Why would they waste time and money porting a game over if nobody bothers to buy?


That is a bold face lie by them. You want to know the real reason why the Wii-U is struggling so hard to attract these huge third party publishers? It's because they can't release half games for full price and sell the other half via DLC due to Nintendo only throwing 32GB in the system. It's the same reason EA left. They wanted to screw people over with their microtransaction bullshit and cram Orgin down their throats. Nintendo doesn't allow for that sort of thing by choice, or design.

In a way, this is exposing the truth about modern AAA publishers. It's letting us see who's who. There use to be a time when the line of thinking was "come up with great original idea, make great game with as much content as humanly possible to entertain the gamer, profit". Now it's mostly "create product, market product, make as much profit as possible from product, repeat". The game industry has become the movie industry now.

It's basically Nintendo and indie devs that still do it the old way, the RIGHT way. Unfortunately, greed is taking over.

Its not a crime for publishers to want to make a profit and DLC is just an optional add on, you can be perfectly fine without it. I bought Skyrim for example and have no intention of getting its expansions. I have Steet Fighter IV AE and dont care about those stupid costumes, or this years update either. But DLC allows those who do to get them, to each their own, everyone wins.

DLC is optional and probably not even purchased by the majority of consumers so thats no Reason for EA or anyone else to skip the U. The platform just isnt economically viable for them yet, plain and simple.


Why are you and so many people trusting of corporations like EA, who couldn't give two shits about you? I'm not trying to be a dick here, I'm honestly curious. I just don't understand how this isn't obvious to people lol.

DLC was a scam from day ONE. The idea of DLC was first used to support a product once it left the developers hands. It was suppose to IMPROVE gaming. But like everything else invented for good, capitalists got a hold of it and whored it to hell for profit.

DLC has been around forever, it used to be called Expansion Packs on PC. Cost much more but came with alot more content. No one complained about it then either. Throw EA into the mix and it becomes a plot by Satan himself. I dont see how DLC harms gaming, perhaps Im missing something please tell me which game or games have been RUINED by DLC?

Why are you and so many people so defense of companies like Nintendo who couldnt give two shits about you?



I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine

SubiyaCryolite said:
XboneWins said:
Cobretti2 said:
Lyrikalstylez said:

Is their any point to strictly gaming on or buying a wii u ?

I know people have Nintendo games to look forward to but you guys will be missing out an just too many games
Reminds me of the time I owned a n64 over a ps1, fuck that shit!


lol what? N64 still had better games compared to PS1 overall. I didn't really feel like I would have missed out on much without the PS1 apart from final fantasy

Lol what? PS1 had  the better games than N64 and that is not even close.

Indeed, the 64 was great machine but I gather many will have more fond memories of the PSOne over the 64. I know I do. Tekken 3. Resident Evil 1 - 3. Spyro. Soul Blade. Final Fantasy VII - IX. Dino Crisis. Street Fighter EX 2. King of Fighters. Little Mermaid (yes, I said it). F1. Crash. Need For Speed Hot Persuit. Riiiiiiiiiiidge Raceeeer. Silent Hill. Oh gosh, just thinking about it *goosebumps*


N64 had two of the best zelda, a perfect 3d mario, golden eye, perfect dark, turok games (YES SHOOTERS on a nintendo system lol), banjo, killer instinct, star fox, conker, 1080 snowbaord, ken griffy jr (probably my favourite baseball game of all time to this day), star wars rogue squadron, blast corps, jet force gemini, exictebike, starcraft, wave racer, f-zero X, mission impossible.

and the usual games that most buy like smash, mario kart, paper mario, donkey kong 

it also had resident evil games and a ridge race port lol, F1 like the PS1.

it also had top 3rd party games like tony hawk



 

 

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archbrix said:

I agree with Cobretti @bolded.

I will concede that if you were to rank the 100 best games of that generation there would be more PS games in that list than N64 games.  But if we just rank the top 20 games of the generation - the best of the best - then the N64 would have far more games present IMO.


Of course top 10/20's etc are entirely subjective but... no, just no.

N64 was basically a Nintendo/Rare console, and that was it. Like rpgs? Too bad, you're not getting any. In fact, I think that if you take Square's whole library from that generation, you're getting pretty close to the number of must-have games on the N64.

All the games that defined the generation were released on the PS1. I can think of 3 exceptions: Mario 64, Ocarina of Time and Goldeneye. But that's beyond the topic.



oniyide said:
prayformojo said:
SubiyaCryolite said:
prayformojo said:
Fusioncode said:
superchunk said:
This means Nintendo needs to pay for it or its not happening. Forget it. I following Rol and only buying Nintendo published games.

And that's precisely the reason why 3rd parties are avoiding the WiiU like the plague. Why would they waste time and money porting a game over if nobody bothers to buy?


That is a bold face lie by them. You want to know the real reason why the Wii-U is struggling so hard to attract these huge third party publishers? It's because they can't release half games for full price and sell the other half via DLC due to Nintendo only throwing 32GB in the system. It's the same reason EA left. They wanted to screw people over with their microtransaction bullshit and cram Orgin down their throats. Nintendo doesn't allow for that sort of thing by choice, or design.

In a way, this is exposing the truth about modern AAA publishers. It's letting us see who's who. There use to be a time when the line of thinking was "come up with great original idea, make great game with as much content as humanly possible to entertain the gamer, profit". Now it's mostly "create product, market product, make as much profit as possible from product, repeat". The game industry has become the movie industry now.

It's basically Nintendo and indie devs that still do it the old way, the RIGHT way. Unfortunately, greed is taking over.

Its not a crime for publishers to want to make a profit and DLC is just an optional add on, you can be perfectly fine without it. I bought Skyrim for example and have no intention of getting its expansions. I have Steet Fighter IV AE and dont care about those stupid costumes, or this years update either. But DLC allows those who do to get them, to each their own, everyone wins.

DLC is optional and probably not even purchased by the majority of consumers so thats no Reason for EA or anyone else to skip the U. The platform just isnt economically viable for them yet, plain and simple.


Why are you and so many people trusting of corporations like EA, who couldn't give two shits about you? I'm not trying to be a dick here, I'm honestly curious. I just don't understand how this isn't obvious to people lol.

DLC was a scam from day ONE. The idea of DLC was first used to support a product once it left the developers hands. It was suppose to IMPROVE gaming. But like everything else invented for good, capitalists got a hold of it and whored it to hell for profit.

Funny coming from the guy who is defending Nintendo like its a family member. You know they dont give two shits about you right?

And nobody was defending anyone

So true, it's always amusing watching people protect these companies when they don't care about you



artur-fernand said:
archbrix said:

I agree with Cobretti @bolded.

I will concede that if you were to rank the 100 best games of that generation there would be more PS games in that list than N64 games.  But if we just rank the top 20 games of the generation - the best of the best - then the N64 would have far more games present IMO.


Of course top 10/20's etc are entirely subjective but... no, just no.

N64 was basically a Nintendo/Rare console, and that was it. Like rpgs? Too bad, you're not getting any. In fact, I think that if you take Square's whole library from that generation, you're getting pretty close to the number of must-have games on the N64.

All the games that defined the generation were released on the PS1. I can think of 3 exceptions: Mario 64, Ocarina of Time and Goldeneye. But that's beyond the topic.

Of course it's subjective; nobody can be wrong in such a discussion... but I steadfastly disagree.

I'm not a big fan of RPGs, particularly the FFs from that generation, so I don't sympathize with your point about the N64's lack of them being detrimental.

Yes, the N64 was absolutely just a Nintendo/Rare console.  In fact, I think that it has possibly the worst 3rd party games/support of any of Nintendo's consoles.  However, that doesn't change the fact that most of my favorite games from that era were from Ninty and Rare.

If you're speaking toward variety then I would concede that the PS definitely takes it, which is likely why I think there were a larger number of "good" games on the console.  When I think of "great" games, there's the Resident Evil series, the Street Fighter Alpha games, and I thought MGS was really good as well.  But to me the N64 has the edge when it comes to "great" games and when we get into the truly "outstanding" games, the PS has only one, Castlevania: SOTN, that can hold its own against the N64 Zeldas and Mario 64.

Again, just my opinion.



Cobretti2 said:
SubiyaCryolite said:
XboneWins said:
Cobretti2 said:
Lyrikalstylez said:

Is their any point to strictly gaming on or buying a wii u ?

I know people have Nintendo games to look forward to but you guys will be missing out an just too many games
Reminds me of the time I owned a n64 over a ps1, fuck that shit!


lol what? N64 still had better games compared to PS1 overall. I didn't really feel like I would have missed out on much without the PS1 apart from final fantasy

Lol what? PS1 had  the better games than N64 and that is not even close.

Indeed, the 64 was great machine but I gather many will have more fond memories of the PSOne over the 64. I know I do. Tekken 3. Resident Evil 1 - 3. Spyro. Soul Blade. Final Fantasy VII - IX. Dino Crisis. Street Fighter EX 2. King of Fighters. Little Mermaid (yes, I said it). F1. Crash. Need For Speed Hot Persuit. Riiiiiiiiiiidge Raceeeer. Silent Hill. Oh gosh, just thinking about it *goosebumps*


N64 had two of the best zelda, a perfect 3d mario, golden eye, perfect dark, turok games (YES SHOOTERS on a nintendo system lol), banjo, killer instinct, star fox, conker, 1080 snowbaord, ken griffy jr (probably my favourite baseball game of all time to this day), star wars rogue squadron, blast corps, jet force gemini, exictebike, starcraft, wave racer, f-zero X, mission impossible.

and the usual games that most buy like smash, mario kart, paper mario, donkey kong 

it also had resident evil games and a ridge race port lol, F1 like the PS1.

it also had top 3rd party games like tony hawk

problem with those are they were really late ports in the case of RE it was like a year and a half late with no descernible enchancements. It might as well not come out and N64 still ended up not get RE3



artur-fernand said:
archbrix said:

I agree with Cobretti @bolded.

I will concede that if you were to rank the 100 best games of that generation there would be more PS games in that list than N64 games.  But if we just rank the top 20 games of the generation - the best of the best - then the N64 would have far more games present IMO.


Of course top 10/20's etc are entirely subjective but... no, just no.

N64 was basically a Nintendo/Rare console, and that was it. Like rpgs? Too bad, you're not getting any. In fact, I think that if you take Square's whole library from that generation, you're getting pretty close to the number of must-have games on the N64.

All the games that defined the generation were released on the PS1. I can think of 3 exceptions: Mario 64, Ocarina of Time and Goldeneye. But that's beyond the topic.


if you like fighting games you were SOL too. and no just Smash doesnt cut it.