This is kind of irrelevant for 2 reasons.

1. BP admitted they were partly to blame for the oil incident.

2. I don't think it was selnor's intentions to absolve MS of all blame in this situation. After all, if Company A signs a deal with Company B for a service, and company B then makes a deal with supplier 1, 2, and 3, then Company A still has some responsibility for what 1, 2, and 3 are doing. No one is denying that.

Rather, what his point was, is that all the ridiculous vitriol spewed at MS for this was unwarranted. Lets get one thing straight. The only really shady part of this whole thing was that participants were not required to put disclaimers in the video or the description. Nothing else about it was out of the ordinary for what really any big company does (and looking at the past history of Sony or Nintendo, even the lack of disclaimers is not really out of the ordinary, which is just another reason why the shitting on MS was funny).

That said, it now turns out MS was unaware of the disclaimer element. Does this cleanse them of all blame? No. Their legal team either didn't read the paperwork, or didn't read them well enough. It simply makes them guilty of general incompetence, not the hilarious stuff we have seen said about them over the last couple days or so. But will all of these people spewing this nonsense about how terrible MS is for the industry, how diabolical and unethical they are, how none of this should surprise anyone because it's "M$", will they come in here and instead direct their vitriol towards Machinima? No. Most of them are now insivisible and the ones in this thread are in full conspiracy mode.

Or maybe selnor was tired of being called a fanboy, a shill, basically a moron for not shitting all over MS for this incident? Well turns out he and the others were 100% right for refraining from that practice. Because, after all, the only "terrible" part of this is the lack of disclaimers, right? And that was not a MS decision.

There are 2 things I know about Carl.

1st: He is the one with the sexy redheads.
2nd: He is a Sony guy.

it's the strangest thing, but I really do

That sucks to generalize like that

Also On Topic:

This is something EVERY big company does...the bad part is right now MS is at the center of internet attacks and don't need any more bad PR. And with all the internet tage of course people are going to point the figer at them. Also yes this is damage control and sure most of us be it Nin/Sony/MS fans know this and know they knew what was going on. Is it bad sure is it something big...nope it is done all teh time so let's just chill folks.

So why would Machinima do this? What would they gain from doing that? I just want to get a clearer explanation.

Thank you for staying on topic.

BS. Its not about every faction dealing with it.....its about the scale/magnitude, which is very far apart.

The aggression xbox fans are feeling right now has been years in the making. Perhaps people should have thought about this back when things were good instead of being condescending and belittling. I'm not naming any names, but I have had quite a few conversations of people confessing to me how bad they were going to give it back once ps was in a better spot.

I even made a thread a few years ago...maybe 3 years ago that said the hdtwin fans should unite and try to get along against nintendo. Basically the same console and games, so let's just get along, and such. Nope, it was thrown in my face, I believe the words "desperate" were mentioned.

Reap what you sow.

Again, not pointing any fingers at anyone. What's done is done, so deal with what is doing.

You've done a remarkable job at changing. You stumble sometimes, but I honestly think you're a good contributor now. You're humorous, don't take things too seriously, and can pick your battles. You used to have this elitist flair that's mostly evolved into a confident swagger, which is so much better.

Lol, either way, at least somebody on this site knows that I exist.  This is probably the first time somebody has actually refered to me, so kudos for that

I agree, that the situation is true is what makes the generalization suck.  The generalization isn't really about Selnor, as much as it is about the few people who try to report or start m$ related threads.  I get that people feel the need to "pick a side".  It's just too bad that they also seem to be unable to use reason once they have.