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sales2099 on 10 January 2014
DonFerrari said:
Please someone ask a moderator to close lhe thread so sales doesn't embarras himself more? The only person agreeing with him that doesn't have the same agenda is Rol, but who knows Rols knows we can't be 100% sure if he is serious or not.

Interesting to know that threads where Xbox fans pose a point of view that isn't immediately squashed by the Sony majority, it deserves to be locked.



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sales2099 on 10 January 2014
deadly2choke said:
sales2099 said:

What makes it "lol" worthy exactly. Is it because it isn't a exclusive? That it isn't on PS4?

The people making the game are a very high caliber of developers. People like what they see in the gameplay. The meta isn't out yet so who are you to downplay a prediction based on solid foundations?

i thought we were talking about how sany fans overhype stuffs 

exclusive or muti i really dont care and i think the sequel is gonna be on PS4...the thing is..the game has like few trailer and there are guys calling it GOTY..i mean seriously??  and thats not overhying??

Well you said it was said by "some guy". Not exactly the consencus of the Xbox community. That is the point.



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Talal on 10 January 2014
sales2099 said:
deadly2choke said:
sales2099 said:
 

What makes it "lol" worthy exactly. Is it because it isn't a exclusive? That it isn't on PS4?

The people making the game are a very high caliber of developers. People like what they see in the gameplay. The meta isn't out yet so who are you to downplay a prediction based on solid foundations?

i thought we were talking about how sany fans overhype stuffs 

exclusive or muti i really dont care and i think the sequel is gonna be on PS4...the thing is..the game has like few trailer and there are guys calling it GOTY..i mean seriously??  and thats not overhying??

Well you said it was said by "some guy". Not exactly the consencus of the Xbox community. That is the point.


... So anytime a game is hyped from a Sony fan it's the consensus of the whole fanbase? listen to yourself.



sales2099 on 10 January 2014
Talal said:
sales2099 said:
 

Well you said it was said by "some guy". Not exactly the consencus of the Xbox community. That is the point.


... So anytime a game is hyped from a Sony fan it's the consensus of the whole fanbase? listen to yourself.

Well no you have to look at the thread and make a consencus based on all posters. See which camp they fall under and then make a call. If you want to make sure, check similar comment sections on the subject on different web sites.



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sales2099 on 10 January 2014
RolStoppable said:
naruball said:

I'm referring to something different, Rol. Not the gamers' disappointment after Ninty failed to deliver, but the flip flopping. Calling wiiu innovative, insane number of posts about nintendomination, buying Ninty stocks, and praising the tablet and then constantly saying how terrible the tablet is and that there should be a new model without it. Do you think that if sales were at wii levels, people wouldn't be praising Ninty for their innovation? The wii didn't have that many great games at first, but did well because of the motion controls. My point is that the wiiu was embraced by vgchartzers, juts like Sony fans praised several Sony products including the ps3 before they came out. Similarly, both fanbases criticize a product after it is released. No fanbase as a whole is better than the other. Neither fanabase hypes things more than the other.

I don't see how what you are talking about is different from what I was talking about. Product gets revealed, is thought of to be a good idea, product releases and underperforms, then gets criticized or swept under the rug. If the product performs well, all is good naturally.

The starting point of this entire discussion was initial reactions to product reveals. In regards to that, all fanbases aren't equal. Certainly not Sony and Nintendo. Did Sony fans piss on The Last of Us when it was revealed? Because Nintendo fans treated Super Mario 3D World and Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze that way. In all three cases, there should be no reason to doubt the developers' ability to deliver a quality product, but the reactions differed.

To add to this, Xbox fans for example are increasingly criticizing Halo games when they are announced. Maybe its because Bungie left but there certainly isn't a universal embracing of Halo games like there used to be.



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Talal on 10 January 2014
RolStoppable said:
naruball said:

I'm referring to something different, Rol. Not the gamers' disappointment after Ninty failed to deliver, but the flip flopping. Calling wiiu innovative, insane number of posts about nintendomination, buying Ninty stocks, and praising the tablet and then constantly saying how terrible the tablet is and that there should be a new model without it. Do you think that if sales were at wii levels, people wouldn't be praising Ninty for their innovation? The wii didn't have that many great games at first, but did well because of the motion controls. My point is that the wiiu was embraced by vgchartzers, juts like Sony fans praised several Sony products including the ps3 before they came out. Similarly, both fanbases criticize a product after it is released. No fanbase as a whole is better than the other. Neither fanabase hypes things more than the other.

I don't see how what you are talking about is different from what I was talking about. Product gets revealed, is thought of to be a good idea, product releases and underperforms, then gets criticized or swept under the rug. If the product performs well, all is good naturally.

The starting point of this entire discussion was initial reactions to product reveals. In regards to that, all fanbases aren't equal. Certainly not Sony and Nintendo. Did Sony fans piss on The Last of Us when it was revealed? Because Nintendo fans treated Super Mario 3D World and Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze that way. In all three cases, there should be no reason to doubt the developers' ability to deliver a quality product, but the reactions differed.


The situations are not comparable.

1- 3D world first trailer was kind of bad and a lot of people changed their minds when they saw more.

2- 3D world looked a lot like 3D Land the handheld game and a lot of people disliked that, especially coming after two of the best games of all time.

3- If the PS4 was failing and Naughty Dog announced Jak and Daxter for example trust me lots of people would be pissed.

Don't know why a lot are pissed about Donkey Kong though. I feel like the whole situation is made worse by the Wii U not doing well. So whatever Nintendo does fans will put the blame on claiming it is the reason for failing.

Edit: Also the fact that the Wii U doesn't have that many games made Nintendo fans extra picky. The PS3 is already 8 years old and had 3 Uncharted games. Fans were ready for a change.



d21lewis on 10 January 2014

Is Agent going to available as a Playstation Now exclusive? If so, count me in!! That game is amazing!!!



FlamingWeazel on 10 January 2014
sales2099 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
sales2099 said:
 

I do agree that it is natural for a group to only focus on the good and look to the next thing out of necessity. You are also right in that it is their sheer majority in internet numbers and posting zeal that makes them stand out a lot more then they should.


Where si your proof sony dominates the internet???

First sign that you are winning an argument is when someone asks for proof that is totally unrealistic to gather, time consuming, and can still be totally refutable.Would you like footnotes and an annotated bibliography?

Look buddy, its called common sense, and it depends on you not living under a internet rock for the past year. Online popularity surveys, the general consencus of the comments section of any X1/PS4 article, whether individual or when pitted against eachother. I don't know what to tell you if you insist on playing the blissfully ignorant card. Cut the BS and lets move forward with the basis that PS fans are numerically superior.

Because frankly, the idea of Xbox and Nintendo fans being more numerous, even as a XBox fan myself, is laughable.

So yuo are talking out of your ass, gotcha. The first sign of losing an argument is having zero proof and using speculation and baseless facts as some kind of argument.



FlamingWeazel on 10 January 2014

Titanfall Game of the generation....and it's sony fans who over hype games LOL.



DonFerrari on 10 January 2014
sales2099 said:
DonFerrari said:
Please someone ask a moderator to close lhe thread so sales doesn't embarras himself more? The only person agreeing with him that doesn't have the same agenda is Rol, but who knows Rols knows we can't be 100% sure if he is serious or not.

Interesting to know that threads where Xbox fans pose a point of view that isn't immediately squashed by the Sony majority, it deserves to be locked.


By not being squashed you mean stubornely defending a point that just you and other very defensive ms fans have? Then yes. If you mean actually making sense not just stating opinion as fact then no, you have been grasping at straws and I asked to close because it won't go anywhere, it's flaming, point less and you are making a ass out of yourself... Well people that are here long enough wouldn't be surprised, but new members may be.



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