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Forums - Gaming - can we finally agree the wii was a fad

OttoniBastos said:
bananaking21 said:
OttoniBastos said:
What means "a fad"? (brazillian here o/It
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it means this

 

Flavin adenine dinucleotide?


it is a thing that sells a lot but dies down quickly.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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oniyide said:
drake4 said:
Cobretti2 said:
Lets see

Running total sales at ed of each year approx

2006 = 3.2m
2007 = 20m
2008 = 44m
2009 = 67m
2010 = 84m
2011 = 94m
2012 = 99m
2013 = 100m

yes fads last for 6 years lol.

yup wii sold 100 million, it sold great for about 4 years, but that's what fads are they sell great then disappear quickly, looks at console sales history, you don't go from selling 100 million consoles then the successor that selling worse then dreamcast, it just shows how big of a fad the wii really was, and that the market has moved on.


you dont even need to use Wii U. Wii Itself was on track to outsell PS2, freaking PS2. Not only did it end up not getting anyhwere near that systems numbers. Its struggled to match PS1'S


There was a guy (I forgot his name) that predicted it would outsell the whole PS family lol. Many thought that 200m was a given at some point too.

OT: I wouldn't call a console a fad. The concept of motion gaming maybe, but I still think motion gaming has some potential.



Best is see a defensor say it sold 100M in 6 years... When almost 80M were in 3 years, a drop like that shows a fad the same WiiU reinstated latter by a even bigger drop... From 2M in 2 months to 300k in the next quarter.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

softcoregamer82 said:
oniyide said:
drake4 said:
Cobretti2 said:
Lets see

Running total sales at ed of each year approx

2006 = 3.2m
2007 = 20m
2008 = 44m
2009 = 67m
2010 = 84m
2011 = 94m
2012 = 99m
2013 = 100m

yes fads last for 6 years lol.

yup wii sold 100 million, it sold great for about 4 years, but that's what fads are they sell great then disappear quickly, looks at console sales history, you don't go from selling 100 million consoles then the successor that selling worse then dreamcast, it just shows how big of a fad the wii really was, and that the market has moved on.


you dont even need to use Wii U. Wii Itself was on track to outsell PS2, freaking PS2. Not only did it end up not getting anyhwere near that systems numbers. Its struggled to match PS1'S

Yeah, such a fad if you can't outsell the best selling console in history and if you effectively match (by a million or two right?) the second best selling home console in history.

Btw, isn't the PS4 tracking ahead of the PS2 after having the best launch in history?  I guess if it doesn't outsell the PS2, it's a total fad.

oh please PS4 just came out. Wii was tracking ahead of PS2 for at least 2 years. years, big difference. And I never said it was a fad, dont put words in my mouth. But people swore that Wii would pass PS2 or at the very least match it. Neither happened and no one has yet to explain why. PS1 is a crap comparison anyway becasue the market was smaller, there was no blue ocean



All consoles are fads...



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the wii sold cause of motion controls, motion controls are not gonna sell consoles anymore, the motion control fad is over with now.



drake4 said:
the wii sold cause of motion controls, motion controls are not gonna sell consoles anymore, the motion control fad is over with now.


thats a fair assestment, but i think its wrong to call an entire console a fad. Wii just happened to tie up their entire identity on that motion control fad and IMHO it hurt them in the end. They are kinda paying for it now.



oniyide said:
Anfebious said:
Here is one Maelstrom Article I read about the topic. It's about the same thing maybe this helps.

http://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2013/12/22/email-isnt-it-obvious/


that barely helped, he just threw up the same thing he was saying for years and using DS as some kind of proof. I wonder how he feels about the Wii U situation


I think the Wii wasn't a fad, the article makes a good point though. What if gaming as a whole was a fad?

Btw you need to read his articles before judging him. He is extremely critical of the Wii U. Go ahead and read his articles, there is lots of stuff to read.



"I've Underestimated the Horse Power from Mario Kart 8, I'll Never Doubt the WiiU's Engine Again"

I bought the Wii and thought it was a generation behind in visual fidelity.

Then I had a PS3, and thought I was still stuck in the 90's with an undercover psone pad in my hands, not having that fresh feel Wii gave me for what next gen should be.

Then I realized: Wii has the most next gen interaction, PS3 has the most next gen visuals. And I was happy.



drake4 said:
Cobretti2 said:
Lets see

Running total sales at ed of each year approx

2006 = 3.2m
2007 = 20m
2008 = 44m
2009 = 67m
2010 = 84m
2011 = 94m
2012 = 99m
2013 = 100m

yes fads last for 6 years lol.

yup wii sold 100 million, it sold great for about 4 years, but that's what fads are they sell great then disappear quickly, looks at console sales history, you don't go from selling 100 million consoles then the successor that selling worse then dreamcast, it just shows how big of a fad the wii really was, and that the market has moved on.


By your logic the Playstation 2 would also have been a fad considering that its successor sold far less than it did and had a rough start for the first two years. For the first six months of their successor's lives the DS and Gameboy Advance were fads because how their succeding system sold far below expectations during the early protions of their life.

Of course, neither of these systems were fads because they sustained long-term momentum (much like the Wii did for 6 years) and I feel there are other reasons why the Wii dropped off so quickly at the end of its life. Firstly, notice the big drop-off that took place between 2011-2012, it coincides with the drop-off in first-party Nintendo software the last major Wii title to be published from Nintendo for Wii was in 2011 (Zelda: SS). Secondly, Wii software continued to sell over its life and even now that the system is close to death (this year we saw continued high sales of Just Dance and Skylanders), if people only bought Wii for Wii Sports then Wii software sales would have been far lower than they are now. The PS3 and Xbox 360 are both continuing to see sustained support from both first-parties and third-parties alike which is why they have not dropped off so quickly. Furthermore, I attribute the lack of Wii U sales to the price of the console and lack of content to justify its price to most people (software and price is what sells hardware) rather than its predecessor being a dead fad; if you were to ask me why the 3DS, PSP, PS3 did not do so well at the start of their life I would give you the same reason why the Wii U is not doing so well.