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It say Sony not SCE. Things like Oled are why they are so high on the list.



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OriGin said:
Why do people cheer a company? 1 Answer - It's called VIRAL MARKETING :P

 No, people just defand what they like.

try telling a Mustang owner that Ford sucks and toyota is better.  



that list was crap anyway. Let's look at the top 5: 1) Apple. Apple have a reputation as being innovative but they've never really done anything innovative at all. What Apple is good at is taking other people's ideas and implementing them in an incredibly polished and user friendly fashion. Which is admirable, yes, but not innovative. Everything apple does is a polished copy of someone else. 2) Google innovated Search 15 years ago with PageRank but since then they haven't done anything 3) GE: Well I don't know what they could have done to belong here, so I won't comment 4) Toyota. OK, they released the Prius, and are putting effort into low fuel cars. REAL innovative. 5) Microsoft, Start your photocopiers! MS couldn't innovate their way out of a paper bag. Like Apple, they take other people's ideas and apply a bit less polish, then patent them and sue the person who originally came up with the idea. People throw around the word "innovative" without really thinking too much about it. None of these companies have really done anything innovative, large companies quite simply don't have the flexibility to take risks and innovate. All the innovation is done by smaller companies who aren't noticed enough to be on one of these lists, or single people who have a great idea.



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Look… later that they had given to the Sixaxis control prize revelation this year or last year I do not remember… I do not bind more for this Rankings… The important one is the almost leader Nintendo of the market… and SONY continuing in last place.



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Cole said:
The Nintendo Wii may be innovative, but it is not innovative in a good way. In the same way Pokemon and Rubix Cubes were fads, so is the Wii. Some of the games are extremely innovative and fun, however Nintendo will not get those seemless controls in 3rd party games. Not to mention, several games out now have very weird controls. The Wii is what would fall under the definition of a 'gimmick'. On the other hand, the 360 and the PS3 both bring some more functioning to a game, but at the same time improve significantly on visuals (which is just as important as realistic controls to bring one into the game). The hand based controller at this time is a winning setup, and until I see real motion sensing (VR, things involving more than flapping your heads), it will keep being so.

 How is Pokemon a fad again? Did you see the numbers of Pokemon Diamond and Pearl sales? 'Nough said....



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Legend11 said:
rocketpig said:
I will never understand people who actively cheer for a company, especially one that has dicked over consumers so much like Sony.

You mean like when Nintendo was fined $147 million by the European Commision for price fixing?

(source: http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/10/30/nintendo.fine/index.html )

Or how about the fact that Nintendo when it basically had a monopoly wouldn't allow third parties to develop for other consoles.

(source: http://www.estarland.com/SegaMasterSystem.q.html )

All the big three currently making consoles have been guilty of practices that screwed consumers at one time or another.

 


Way to take one line out of three of my posts to support your argument. My point had nothing to do with "Company A" so much as it had to do with companies in general. They're all out for your money and nothing more. Showing blind allegiance to one or the other is pure foolishness. 




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ckmlb said:
Cole said:
The Nintendo Wii may be innovative, but it is not innovative in a good way. In the same way Pokemon and Rubix Cubes were fads, so is the Wii. Some of the games are extremely innovative and fun, however Nintendo will not get those seemless controls in 3rd party games. Not to mention, several games out now have very weird controls. The Wii is what would fall under the definition of a 'gimmick'. On the other hand, the 360 and the PS3 both bring some more functioning to a game, but at the same time improve significantly on visuals (which is just as important as realistic controls to bring one into the game). The hand based controller at this time is a winning setup, and until I see real motion sensing (VR, things involving more than flapping your heads), it will keep being so.

 How is Pokemon a fad again? Did you see the numbers of Pokemon Diamond and Pearl sales? 'Nough said....


I was wondering the same thing... How long has Pokemon been around now? 10 years? And their latest DS games are still selling like hotcakes. 




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Although I understand this list is not focused on gaming but on businesses as a whole, from a strict innovative viewpoint I fail to see why some of these companies are on the list at all.

In fact, most of the top companies are there because of their marketing skills more than their contributions towards innovation.

Apple: There are many outstanding mp3 players that have won product design awards (www.red-dot.de); Apple knows their marketing,

Google: There are many search engines; Google knows their marketing (remember their "we only focus on search"?)

Toyota: Their Prius is actually not nearly as environmentally friendly as they claim it to be (http://omidr.typepad.com/torque/2007/03/toyotas_prius_i.html); Toyota knows their marketing

And on, and on, and on...

And all this Nintendo vs Sony vs Microsoft stuff? Give it a rest, guys. The list is not about consoles. 



Yeah this list is a little warped to what people "think" is innovative. Microsoft is a huge copier of ideas, and has anyone noticed that since they've owned the OS and Office market those types of software have virtually stagnated. I know Vista is out there with all it's fun little widgets but they're no different then tons of downloadable programs that have been on the internet for years.

I love my ipod, but I'm tired of people thinking they invented the mp3 player, or the portable video player. I've had an Archos portable video player for two years prior to the video Ipod. And how does Best Buy get on the list? They are just the latest electronic store, applience computers, and tvs, before them was Circuit City, the Wiz, Topps...and they are pretty much all the same exact store.