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"I mean, c'mon, Viva Pinata, a game with massive marketing, didn't sell worth a damn to the "sophisticated" 360 audience, despite near-universal praise--is that a sign that 360 owners are a bunch of casual ignoramuses that can't get their heads around a 'gardening' sim? Of course not. So let's please stop trying to micro-analyze one game out of hundreds and using it as the poster child for why good, non-1st party, games can't sell on Wii. (Everyone frequenting this site knows this is nonsense, and yet some of you just can't let it go because it's the only scab you have left to pick at after all your other "Wii will phail1!!1" straw men arguments have been put to the torch.)" - exindguy on Boom Blocks
I will never understand people who actively cheer for a company, especially one that has dicked over consumers so much like Sony.

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| rocketpig said: I will never understand people who actively cheer for a company, especially one that has dicked over consumers so much like Sony. I tolerate MS because they offer a product (the 360) that I enjoy, despite the fact that they're real SOBs in the marketplace. I tolerate Apple because they offer a computing alternative that I feel is superior to Windows, despite the fact that Steve Jobs has an ego the size of Montana. I tolerate Nintendo because I enjoy the Wii, despite the fact that they pulled so many nasty tricks on Sega in the 90s that I still find it hard to respect the company. Cheering or jeering a company simply because you're a "fan" of their headless empire worth billions of dollars is downright ridiculous. |
| NightStalker said: when poeple love a company's products it starts to turn into love for the company itself. sometimes I find myself being all fan crazy of Apple because I love my Macbook. it just happens. |
And I love my Macbook, too. In fact, I'm typing on it now. I also love my iMac, iPod, and the iTunes Store. But that doesn't change the fact that Steve Jobs is a dick and that Apple is out there for your money, that's it. They're just another company and if they stop offering me what I want or need, I will go elsewhere for my computing solutions.
The same applies to Sony, MS, Nintendo, etc. I show a company as much loyalty as they show me; ie. I buy the products that cater to my wants as long as they provide them to me. As soon as they stop doing that, my loyalty ends completely.
I've been a diehard Apple user for almost a decade now because I love OSX and I like the form factor, hardware stability, etc. But that doesn't stop me from openly mocking the company when they do something foolish (their over-hyping of Mighty Mouse, for example).

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so...Sony are put as 10th for copying ideas like second life and re making a console with a new name. Nintendo are put as 39 for bringing back the gaming industry, basically inventing gaming today and creating the greatest game franchises ever...well looks to me the writers of that mag a r-tards
| Steoandnoodles said: so...Sony are put as 10th for copying ideas like second life and re making a console with a new name. Nintendo are put as 39 for bringing back the gaming industry, basically inventing gaming today and creating the greatest game franchises ever...well looks to me the writers of that mag a r-tards |
In all fairness, that list was compiled for 2007 only. Nintendo's actions in 1985 had nothing to do with their decision.
Also, there's a good chance that things Sony did outside of the PS3 weighed heavily on their decision to put them at #10.
Personally, I fail to see what Apple did recently that is so bloody revolutionary. The iPod is aging, AppleTV is overpriced and underequipped, and the iPhone hasn't even been reviewed by anyone. Virtually nothing in their computing sector has changed in the last 10 months... So what did they do to receive #1 three years in a row?

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| Steoandnoodles said: so...Sony are put as 10th for copying ideas like second life and re making a console with a new name. Nintendo are put as 39 for bringing back the gaming industry, basically inventing gaming today and creating the greatest game franchises ever...well looks to me the writers of that mag a r-tards |
1st of all Home is bringing together ideas from many different sources, and not just from Second Life. nothing is original today so shutup w/ this "they copied" BS. secondly Sony is also mentioned for their TVs and other products so it isn't all about the PS3.
Nintendo isn't up there because they haven't really doing any very innovative up until the DS and Wii and they not all of a sudden going jump to 1st place after doing so poorly.
just get over it and move on...
EDIT: and yea add on what rocket pig said.
| rocketpig said: I will never understand people who actively cheer for a company, especially one that has dicked over consumers so much like Sony. I tolerate MS because they offer a product (the 360) that I enjoy, despite the fact that they're real SOBs in the marketplace. I tolerate Apple because they offer a computing alternative that I feel is superior to Windows, despite the fact that Steve Jobs has an ego the size of Montana. I tolerate Nintendo because I enjoy the Wii, despite the fact that they pulled so many nasty tricks on Sega in the 90s that I still find it hard to respect the company. Cheering or jeering a company simply because you're a "fan" of their headless empire worth billions of dollars is downright ridiculous. |
Let's talk about who's dicked over the consumer.... hmmmm.....
Microsoft makes a console with a really really high failure rate, so much so that many people are on their 4th 360s, is that not dicking over the consumers???? I think it's a lot worse than what the PS3 does in that area.
Let's move on to Nintendo.... They delay a gamecube game, the new Zelda long enough to launch it with their new console to essentially force people who want the new Zelda that was ready on the Gamecube to buy the new console to play it and for a while there was no info as to when the GC version of Zelda was coming until Nintendo realized they will leave money on the table by not releasing that and they did. Dicking the consumer maybe?
Microsoft goes ahead and charges 100 dollars for a 20 gb hard drive while charing 40 bucks or so for the tiny memory card, does that make any sense? or is that not dicking the consumer? Now they release a 120 gb hard drive for 180$, once more overpricing it to the max...
Nintendo Somehow isn't able to ramp up production and the amount of Wiis sold per month is not going up month to month, aren't they ramping up the production to meet the high demand? Or are they not doing that to keep a demand going for their new console over time rather than selling many more in one month. Dicking the consumer maybe?

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This list is not limited to the videogame industry, and both Sony and Microsoft are huge companies with many different products. Nintendo is primarily a videogame developer and manufacturer. I think most people agree that Nintendo has the most innovative console currently, also handheld, but this list factors in other things besides videogames, which bumps Nintendo down plenty.
EDIT: Don't turn this into a "which company dicks over the most consumers," because everybody knows Sony wins in that department, don't fool yourself. Nintendo and Microsoft do their fair share, *see the 80s and 90s for Nintendo, and Vista for Microsoft*, but Sony wins hands down.


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