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elnino334 said:
veiam said:
elnino334 said:

Since mine was locked I assume here is what I had to say:


Login solution would be useful which is why mmo's are not hurt by piracy as much if at all. Currently I pay for city of heroes every month yet all the latest PC games I just bootleg though recently games like crysis and unreal 3 just do not run well on my current PC so screw them. Plus all my friends have consoles and for those that have PC's they use them for the internet or school work etc and rather spend money on games then a 6-12 month video card of $200+. I am baised since I just think is so retarted that games are made to run with the latest cards without giving an option to play with older cards which kicked ass not so long ago. Is not like asking to run at insane resolutions with 60 fps etc. Just allow me to enjoy the game at a decent resolution and locked in 30 fps. I mean you look at Half Life 2 which my system runs wonderfully and why can't crysis have an option to just look like that. Again PC's are a pain in the ass for gaming for the most part so I am glad consoles are the focus as I want all the PC games to be available on consoles so I may play them with my friends who also don't feel like spending money on new PC's etc.

 

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ssj12 had mentioned about login solution to fight against piracy


Crysis DOES have the functionality to run at 30 FPS on your rig. It's called LOWER-MEDIUM VIDEO SETTINGS. No developer ever told you that you have to play their game at Max have they? Also the reason PC gaming is slowing down is because PC gets crappy consolish games. No PC gamer likes a port from a console, there are exceptions, but in general it's true. Also last time I heard PC games ported to a console don't do as hot (BioShock's awkward control scheme on the 360 when it comes to using plasmids and weps).

Ok man since you obvisouly was at my house when I tried to run the game at the lowest settings and see the crawl. I am sure you would have been there laughing with my friends lol. I am going to end discussion of PC stuff since obviously I just need to upgrade and then I would be a PC gamer lol.


 I don't know what rig you have but you obviously need an upgrade. It costs just about $500 to build a rig from scratch to run crysis on low to medium, and I mean the entire box not just the video card.



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Legend11 said:
Is there anyplace to see how many copies of games are selling on Steam? I'm just curious because I never seem to encounter any articles from publishers bragging about how many copies of games they've sold on it. Also I can't understand why some of the publishers on there when we look at their financial statements the PC is either at the bottom or very close to it as far as income is concerned. If Steam is this sales beast why can't I go to their site and see a top 10 list of games along with their sales?

*Oh and in case anyone is wondering I actually think Steam is brilliant and I hope the next generation of consoles have a similar setup to it.


Why would you brag? It's better to make your money and also cry poverty. Then any greedy decision you make you can hide behind the PR shield of "It's because of those damn pirates!"

It's basic buisness (and military) strategy. It gives you an unassailable position. 



veiam said:
elnino334 said:
veiam said:
elnino334 said:

Since mine was locked I assume here is what I had to say:


Login solution would be useful which is why mmo's are not hurt by piracy as much if at all. Currently I pay for city of heroes every month yet all the latest PC games I just bootleg though recently games like crysis and unreal 3 just do not run well on my current PC so screw them. Plus all my friends have consoles and for those that have PC's they use them for the internet or school work etc and rather spend money on games then a 6-12 month video card of $200+. I am baised since I just think is so retarted that games are made to run with the latest cards without giving an option to play with older cards which kicked ass not so long ago. Is not like asking to run at insane resolutions with 60 fps etc. Just allow me to enjoy the game at a decent resolution and locked in 30 fps. I mean you look at Half Life 2 which my system runs wonderfully and why can't crysis have an option to just look like that. Again PC's are a pain in the ass for gaming for the most part so I am glad consoles are the focus as I want all the PC games to be available on consoles so I may play them with my friends who also don't feel like spending money on new PC's etc.

 

P.S

ssj12 had mentioned about login solution to fight against piracy


Crysis DOES have the functionality to run at 30 FPS on your rig. It's called LOWER-MEDIUM VIDEO SETTINGS. No developer ever told you that you have to play their game at Max have they? Also the reason PC gaming is slowing down is because PC gets crappy consolish games. No PC gamer likes a port from a console, there are exceptions, but in general it's true. Also last time I heard PC games ported to a console don't do as hot (BioShock's awkward control scheme on the 360 when it comes to using plasmids and weps).

Ok man since you obvisouly was at my house when I tried to run the game at the lowest settings and see the crawl. I am sure you would have been there laughing with my friends lol. I am going to end discussion of PC stuff since obviously I just need to upgrade and then I would be a PC gamer lol.


 I don't know what rig you have but you obviously need an upgrade. It costs just about $500 to build a rig from scratch to run crysis on low to medium, and I mean the entire box not just the video card.


 

With those same $500 I could buy a PS3 and have access to more games as well as play with tons of other people who bought a PS3.  Seems every new game announced is being made available for the 360/PS3 so I should upgrade because... I am sorry but that is the same excuse you will get over and over when shit doesn't work on PC, just upgrade but how long until the next one?

Like I said, easy solution to piracy is some form of login. There is a reason why battlefield 2, and 2142 didnt flop. They both had logins. Same with WoW, and all the Steam games. In order to play them you need to login. This is why UT3 is hard to pirate. It requires a login.



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I think the main problem is that companies like Dell or HP jack the price up on their high-end rigs that people can only afford to spend $6k on them every 6 years meaning instead of upgrading them, due to ripoff upgrade prices, they deal with newer games only being able to be played on low and eventually not at all.



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ssj12 said:
Like I said, easy solution to piracy is some form of login. There is a reason why battlefield 2, and 2142 didnt flop. They both had logins. Same with WoW, and all the Steam games. In order to play them you need to login. This is why UT3 is hard to pirate. It requires a login.

Yeah I agree this would be the ideal solution.  Why don't I bootleg on the xbox 360? Xbox live which is basically a login.  Before then I bootled on the dreamcast,ps2 and the xbox. 

By the way another reason I dislike PC for gaming is the ripoff of video cards dropping in price so fast and radically.  Is annoying paying $300-400 card that will be $100-200 in a couple of months.  Yeah I guess you can wait but when does the waiting stop...



elnino334 said:
veiam said:
elnino334 said:
veiam said:
elnino334 said:

Since mine was locked I assume here is what I had to say:


Login solution would be useful which is why mmo's are not hurt by piracy as much if at all. Currently I pay for city of heroes every month yet all the latest PC games I just bootleg though recently games like crysis and unreal 3 just do not run well on my current PC so screw them. Plus all my friends have consoles and for those that have PC's they use them for the internet or school work etc and rather spend money on games then a 6-12 month video card of $200+. I am baised since I just think is so retarted that games are made to run with the latest cards without giving an option to play with older cards which kicked ass not so long ago. Is not like asking to run at insane resolutions with 60 fps etc. Just allow me to enjoy the game at a decent resolution and locked in 30 fps. I mean you look at Half Life 2 which my system runs wonderfully and why can't crysis have an option to just look like that. Again PC's are a pain in the ass for gaming for the most part so I am glad consoles are the focus as I want all the PC games to be available on consoles so I may play them with my friends who also don't feel like spending money on new PC's etc.

 

P.S

ssj12 had mentioned about login solution to fight against piracy


Crysis DOES have the functionality to run at 30 FPS on your rig. It's called LOWER-MEDIUM VIDEO SETTINGS. No developer ever told you that you have to play their game at Max have they? Also the reason PC gaming is slowing down is because PC gets crappy consolish games. No PC gamer likes a port from a console, there are exceptions, but in general it's true. Also last time I heard PC games ported to a console don't do as hot (BioShock's awkward control scheme on the 360 when it comes to using plasmids and weps).

Ok man since you obvisouly was at my house when I tried to run the game at the lowest settings and see the crawl. I am sure you would have been there laughing with my friends lol. I am going to end discussion of PC stuff since obviously I just need to upgrade and then I would be a PC gamer lol.


I don't know what rig you have but you obviously need an upgrade. It costs just about $500 to build a rig from scratch to run crysis on low to medium, and I mean the entire box not just the video card.


 

With those same $500 I could buy a PS3 and have access to more games as well as play with tons of other people who bought a PS3. Seems every new game announced is being made available for the 360/PS3 so I should upgrade because... I am sorry but that is the same excuse you will get over and over when shit doesn't work on PC, just upgrade but how long until the next one?

 You'd have access to more games with a PS3? Play with more people online? That just made my roommate look at me funny cause I was laughing aloud. As far as having to upgrade to run games soon that's just not true. I have not heard of ANY PC game that has been announced, or rumored about, that will require the horsepower that Crysis required. If you shell out 1k for  a self built computer you'd be fine for up to 5 years. Hell I had a mediocre laptop at the time that I bought it and that lasted me good 4 years (It just so happened that its motherboard crapped out beginning of 2007, it would not have run UT3 or Crysis). And that's a laptop, now think a nice desktop. And yes I do agree that within 5 yers you'd have to upgrade to play the new top of the line games at all, but that just means those top of the line games will be far better than any of the games on the PS3 (in terms for graphics and hopefully AI).



ssj12 said:
I think the main problem is that companies like Dell or HP jack the price up on their high-end rigs that people can only afford to spend $6k on them every 6 years meaning instead of upgrading them, due to ripoff upgrade prices, they deal with newer games only being able to be played on low and eventually not at all.

I think this is a big problem as people are cheap and buy those dell or hp machines or even the emachines which are fairly cheap with their big hardrives and memory etc but then have a crappy ass card.  People are mislead all the time in the stores thinking they are getting a greta package or deal which is true if all they want to do is use office and the internet but not much is paid to gaming.  They expect you to come back later and upgrade to one of those expensive cards for which local stores typically don't have the latest so are over priced etc.  Basically alot of people are screwed when it comes to PC gaming unless you are some what savvy about PC hardware etc.



elnino334 said:
ssj12 said:
Like I said, easy solution to piracy is some form of login. There is a reason why battlefield 2, and 2142 didnt flop. They both had logins. Same with WoW, and all the Steam games. In order to play them you need to login. This is why UT3 is hard to pirate. It requires a login.

Yeah I agree this would be the ideal solution.  Why don't I bootleg on the xbox 360? Xbox live which is basically a login.  Before then I bootled on the dreamcast,ps2 and the xbox. 

By the way another reason I dislike PC for gaming is the ripoff of video cards dropping in price so fast and radically.  Is annoying paying $300-400 card that will be $100-200 in a couple of months.  Yeah I guess you can wait but when does the waiting stop...


 typically a new high-end video card is released ever 7 - 10 months. After release normally the low-mid end cards are released. After the mid-end cards are released or 2 - 3 months have passed prices are about $200less and thats when you snag the high-end card of the last generation. I'm waiting on the 9800GX2 to be released because I plan on building in June.



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Amazing discussion about being wrong
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ssj12 said:
elnino334 said:
ssj12 said:
Like I said, easy solution to piracy is some form of login. There is a reason why battlefield 2, and 2142 didnt flop. They both had logins. Same with WoW, and all the Steam games. In order to play them you need to login. This is why UT3 is hard to pirate. It requires a login.

Yeah I agree this would be the ideal solution.  Why don't I bootleg on the xbox 360? Xbox live which is basically a login.  Before then I bootled on the dreamcast,ps2 and the xbox. 

By the way another reason I dislike PC for gaming is the ripoff of video cards dropping in price so fast and radically.  Is annoying paying $300-400 card that will be $100-200 in a couple of months.  Yeah I guess you can wait but when does the waiting stop...


 typically a new high-end video card is released ever 7 - 10 months. After release normally the low-mid end cards are released. After the mid-end cards are released or 2 - 3 months have passed prices are about $200less and thats when you snag the high-end card of the last generation. I'm waiting on the 9800GX2 to be released because I plan on building in June.


Thanks for the info.  So what is the best one to get right now or are we in a waiting period about to hit those 7-10 months?  Looks llike my girls card is going bad so may need to get something soon.  She had a nvidia 6600gt.  Any information would be helpful.