I have nothing to add apart from STEAM PWNS! Online gaming should be free!

If the next gen consoles are even pricier than this gen's consoles then I can see people going back to PC gaming due to the simple fact that PCs will be able to be made for cheaper than buying a console.

Also to get the HD benefit from a console you'd need an HDTV which costs a solid amount too, meanwhile, as far as i've heard, the use of an actual TV has been going down (50% of all .torrent files DLed have been of TV shows) therefore eventually you'd end up buying TVs just to play consoles. Meanwhile a laptop's screen is already 1200p, much better thana the best HDTV's out there.

I'm just waiting until consoles hit the $899 mark to see a rebound (Hopefully).

Since mine was locked I assume here is what I had to say:


Login solution would be useful which is why mmo's are not hurt by piracy as much if at all. Currently I pay for city of heroes every month yet all the latest PC games I just bootleg though recently games like crysis and unreal 3 just do not run well on my current PC so screw them. Plus all my friends have consoles and for those that have PC's they use them for the internet or school work etc and rather spend money on games then a 6-12 month video card of $200+. I am baised since I just think is so retarted that games are made to run with the latest cards without giving an option to play with older cards which kicked ass not so long ago. Is not like asking to run at insane resolutions with 60 fps etc. Just allow me to enjoy the game at a decent resolution and locked in 30 fps. I mean you look at Half Life 2 which my system runs wonderfully and why can't crysis have an option to just look like that. Again PC's are a pain in the ass for gaming for the most part so I am glad consoles are the focus as I want all the PC games to be available on consoles so I may play them with my friends who also don't feel like spending money on new PC's etc.

 

P.S

ssj12 had mentioned about login solution to fight against piracy

elnino334 said: Since mine was locked I assume here is what I had to say: Login solution would be useful which is why mmo's are not hurt by piracy as much if at all. Currently I pay for city of heroes every month yet all the latest PC games I just bootleg though recently games like crysis and unreal 3 just do not run well on my current PC so screw them. Plus all my friends have consoles and for those that have PC's they use them for the internet or school work etc and rather spend money on games then a 6-12 month video card of $200+. I am baised since I just think is so retarted that games are made to run with the latest cards without giving an option to play with older cards which kicked ass not so long ago. Is not like asking to run at insane resolutions with 60 fps etc. Just allow me to enjoy the game at a decent resolution and locked in 30 fps. I mean you look at Half Life 2 which my system runs wonderfully and why can't crysis have an option to just look like that. Again PC's are a pain in the ass for gaming for the most part so I am glad consoles are the focus as I want all the PC games to be available on consoles so I may play them with my friends who also don't feel like spending money on new PC's etc.   P.S ssj12 had mentioned about login solution to fight against piracy

so from your post we get:

- you are a pirate

- you are a hypocrite (you critcise PC gaming because of piracy) 

- you don't know shit about PC hardware

- you CRY because you can't play a pirated Crysis

veiam said: If the next gen consoles are even pricier than this gen's consoles then I can see people going back to PC gaming due to the simple fact that PCs will be able to be made for cheaper than buying a console. Also to get the HD benefit from a console you'd need an HDTV which costs a solid amount too, meanwhile, as far as i've heard, the use of an actual TV has been going down (50% of all .torrent files DLed have been of TV shows) therefore eventually you'd end up buying TVs just to play consoles. Meanwhile a laptop's screen is already 1200p, much better thana the best HDTV's out there. I'm just waiting until consoles hit the $899 mark to see a rebound (Hopefully).

I predict 2050.

Seriously, do you think the console makers are blind? Sony may not have actually destroyed the Playstation brand but they came way too close for comfort and it was entirely due to having a massively expensive console. I've seen no one disagreeing until now with the idea that no console in the next gen is going to cost as much as the PS3 did at launch, so I would like to know why you think prices will go UP.

Moreover, PC prices are indeed falling but a PC in the same price range as consoles are NOT going to last as long for gaming as consoles.

And you seem to take trends like people watching more things on their computers (instead of TV) and assuming that those trends will continue forever, which is just silly. Obviously things will reach a new equilibrium and I think it's foolish to presume without very strong evidence that the new equilibrium will be "almost no one will watch TV in the future".

@ shio

lol.

elnino334 said: Since mine was locked I assume here is what I had to say: Login solution would be useful which is why mmo's are not hurt by piracy as much if at all. Currently I pay for city of heroes every month yet all the latest PC games I just bootleg though recently games like crysis and unreal 3 just do not run well on my current PC so screw them. Plus all my friends have consoles and for those that have PC's they use them for the internet or school work etc and rather spend money on games then a 6-12 month video card of $200+. I am baised since I just think is so retarted that games are made to run with the latest cards without giving an option to play with older cards which kicked ass not so long ago. Is not like asking to run at insane resolutions with 60 fps etc. Just allow me to enjoy the game at a decent resolution and locked in 30 fps. I mean you look at Half Life 2 which my system runs wonderfully and why can't crysis have an option to just look like that. Again PC's are a pain in the ass for gaming for the most part so I am glad consoles are the focus as I want all the PC games to be available on consoles so I may play them with my friends who also don't feel like spending money on new PC's etc.   P.S ssj12 had mentioned about login solution to fight against piracy

Crysis DOES have the functionality to run at 30 FPS on your rig. It's called LOWER-MEDIUM VIDEO SETTINGS. No developer ever told you that you have to play their game at Max have they? Also the reason PC gaming is slowing down is because PC gets crappy consolish games. No PC gamer likes a port from a console, there are exceptions, but in general it's true. Also last time I heard PC games ported to a console don't do as hot (BioShock's awkward control scheme on the 360 when it comes to using plasmids and weps). 

shio said: elnino334 said: Since mine was locked I assume here is what I had to say: Login solution would be useful which is why mmo's are not hurt by piracy as much if at all. Currently I pay for city of heroes every month yet all the latest PC games I just bootleg though recently games like crysis and unreal 3 just do not run well on my current PC so screw them. Plus all my friends have consoles and for those that have PC's they use them for the internet or school work etc and rather spend money on games then a 6-12 month video card of $200+. I am baised since I just think is so retarted that games are made to run with the latest cards without giving an option to play with older cards which kicked ass not so long ago. Is not like asking to run at insane resolutions with 60 fps etc. Just allow me to enjoy the game at a decent resolution and locked in 30 fps. I mean you look at Half Life 2 which my system runs wonderfully and why can't crysis have an option to just look like that. Again PC's are a pain in the ass for gaming for the most part so I am glad consoles are the focus as I want all the PC games to be available on consoles so I may play them with my friends who also don't feel like spending money on new PC's etc.   P.S ssj12 had mentioned about login solution to fight against piracy so from your post we get: - you are a pirate - you are a hypocrite (you critcise PC gaming because of piracy)  - you don't know shit about PC hardware - you CRY because you can't play a pirated Crysis

-Yes though I don't pirate them per say just know where to download and how to get them working etc, been doing it since the AOL days

-I didn't critize piracy. I am glad I can play these games for free.  Was commenting that Login or connecting to a server like mmo's or steam help against piracy duh.

-LOL I do desktop support for a living or the past 8 years.  Why do you think I have so much time during work to read over the forums.  Mind you I don't spend tons of time trying to keep up with all the cards available but I did try to get the best I could 2 or 3 years ago can't remember exactly when I bought my PC which was a pci-express ati x800 with 512 mb which has serve me well until crysis.  Again not saying I am expert on the latest and greatest that is happening but I know more then the average Joe :)

-Not crying at all since I have an xbox 360 which is where I would play fps games to beging since that is where my friends would be playing.  Some of us just prefer to play with people lol. 

Sorry if I hit nerve since PC gamers are so passionate (Looking at you ssj12)  so I'll be a little more positive when addressing you folks :)

veiam said: elnino334 said: Since mine was locked I assume here is what I had to say: Login solution would be useful which is why mmo's are not hurt by piracy as much if at all. Currently I pay for city of heroes every month yet all the latest PC games I just bootleg though recently games like crysis and unreal 3 just do not run well on my current PC so screw them. Plus all my friends have consoles and for those that have PC's they use them for the internet or school work etc and rather spend money on games then a 6-12 month video card of $200+. I am baised since I just think is so retarted that games are made to run with the latest cards without giving an option to play with older cards which kicked ass not so long ago. Is not like asking to run at insane resolutions with 60 fps etc. Just allow me to enjoy the game at a decent resolution and locked in 30 fps. I mean you look at Half Life 2 which my system runs wonderfully and why can't crysis have an option to just look like that. Again PC's are a pain in the ass for gaming for the most part so I am glad consoles are the focus as I want all the PC games to be available on consoles so I may play them with my friends who also don't feel like spending money on new PC's etc.   P.S ssj12 had mentioned about login solution to fight against piracy Crysis DOES have the functionality to run at 30 FPS on your rig. It's called LOWER-MEDIUM VIDEO SETTINGS. No developer ever told you that you have to play their game at Max have they? Also the reason PC gaming is slowing down is because PC gets crappy consolish games. No PC gamer likes a port from a console, there are exceptions, but in general it's true. Also last time I heard PC games ported to a console don't do as hot (BioShock's awkward control scheme on the 360 when it comes to using plasmids and weps).

Ok man since you obvisouly was at my house when I tried to run the game at the lowest settings and see the crawl.  I am sure you would have been there laughing with my friends lol.  I am going to end discussion of PC stuff since obviously I just need to upgrade and then I would be a PC gamer lol. 

Final-Fan said: veiam said: If the next gen consoles are even pricier than this gen's consoles then I can see people going back to PC gaming due to the simple fact that PCs will be able to be made for cheaper than buying a console. Also to get the HD benefit from a console you'd need an HDTV which costs a solid amount too, meanwhile, as far as i've heard, the use of an actual TV has been going down (50% of all .torrent files DLed have been of TV shows) therefore eventually you'd end up buying TVs just to play consoles. Meanwhile a laptop's screen is already 1200p, much better thana the best HDTV's out there. I'm just waiting until consoles hit the $899 mark to see a rebound (Hopefully). I predict 2050. Seriously, do you think the console makers are blind? Sony may not have actually destroyed the Playstation brand but they came way too close for comfort and it was entirely due to having a massively expensive console. I've seen no one disagreeing until now with the idea that no console in the next gen is going to cost as much as the PS3 did at launch, so I would like to know why you think prices will go UP. Moreover, PC prices are indeed falling but a PC in the same price range as consoles are NOT going to last as long for gaming as consoles. And you seem to take trends like people watching more things on their computers (instead of TV) and assuming that those trends will continue forever, which is just silly. Obviously things will reach a new equilibrium and I think it's foolish to presume without very strong evidence that the new equilibrium will be "almost no one will watch TV in the future".

 I agree with the fact that console's probably won't cost that much for a while, but as far as TV's are concerned you obviously have not noticed that TC has been dying more and more due to the internet, TV stations themselves have started uploading some of their shows up for torrent or streaming them. This all comes from a simple reason, I don't wanna be limited to 9 PM tuesdays to watch House, I wanna watch it the next day at 6PM or whenever. TVs are on their way out as a whole when it comes to shows, not sports, but just general TV shows yes.