To be consistent:
PS4 and XB1 will be next-gen now
PS3, 360 current gen
WiiU last gen
Wii conveniently forget about / doesn't count because gen
It is the current most convenient shorthand. Everyone knows what you're talking about and there's no confusion.
Its usefulness will last a few more years and I don't see a problem.
| platformmaster918 said: I mean over a long, normal period. At least wait until games stop coming for the current gen. The next gen will be in it's 3rd year before it's really in full swing. WiiU is current gen cause Wii is dead but PS3 still has plenty of life. Yes they're the previous gen but that doesn't mean they're the old gen which is what they would have to be for PS4 to be current gen. LoS2 and GT6 aren't coming to next gen so I'm not willing to call them old news yet. |
The original Xbox stopped selling well before the PS3 and Wii launched, but nobody called the Xbox 360 "current gen" at that time. And nobody refers to the iPhone 4 as "current gen" just because they're still selling well.
"Generation" has a definition. People should use it correctly. In this case, the current generation is the newest generation that is currently available. That products are still being made with Android 3 in mind doesn't make it "current gen". That PS2 games were still being made in 2008 didn't make the PS2 "current gen". The phrase "current gen" refers to the CURRENT generation. Whether games are still being made for the previous generation or not is irrelevant.
And like I said, if you don't like referring to the PS4, XBO, and Wii U as "current gen", then you can make do with "new gen", which carries all of the meaning you want to convey without being WRONG.
| SvennoJ said: To be consistent: PS4 and XB1 will be next-gen now PS3, 360 current gen WiiU last gen Wii conveniently forget about / doesn't count because gen |
Take your Console War BS and leave. You are not welcome.
| Soleron said: It is the current most convenient shorthand. Everyone knows what you're talking about and there's no confusion. Its usefulness will last a few more years and I don't see a problem. |
Stupidity should never be tolerated just because intelligent people can figure out what was actually meant.
As I've said, "new gen" carries the same ability to clarify without being wrong. So if you're not comfortable with either "current gen" or "gen 8" for WiiU/PS4/XBO, then use "new gen". "Next-gen" needs to be available for use in referring to the 4DS/PSP3/WiiV/PS5/XBTwo. I really don't want to see the ludicrous "next-next-gen" that popped up throughout the last generation to refer to the current one.
EDIT: Oh, and "new gen" is even shorter-hand than "next gen", so "shorthand" isn't a justifiable argument for using "next gen", either.
Aielyn said:
Stupidity should never be tolerated just because intelligent people can figure out what was actually meant. As I've said, "new gen" carries the same ability to clarify without being wrong. So if you're not comfortable with either "current gen" or "gen 8" for WiiU/PS4/XBO, then use "new gen". "Next-gen" needs to be available for use in referring to the 4DS/PSP3/WiiV/PS5/XBTwo. I really don't want to see the ludicrous "next-next-gen" that popped up throughout the last generation to refer to the current one. EDIT: Oh, and "new gen" is even shorter-hand than "next gen", so "shorthand" isn't a justifiable argument for using "next gen", either. |
Guess what. Words mean what people think they mean. People aren't stupid for using a term everyone understands.
Insisting everything means exactly what the words that make it up say is pedantic.
There's no "argument". It just is what it is and you can't change it.
I greatly disagree until the next gen consoles reach a certain market saturation say 25+ million (cumilatively) then they are still next gen
| Talal said: I will permaban myself if the game releases in 2014. |
in reference to KH3 release date
Wii U, PS4 and X1 will only be called current-gen once we see them on VGChartz's front page.
| Aielyn said: So we all recall the absurdity that happened in the previous gaming generation - even in 2010, some people were calling the Xbox 360 and the PS3 "next-gen consoles". This, despite one of them having been out for five whole years. As such, this thread serves as a public service announcement. The Playstation 4, the Xbox One, and the Wii U are all out, now, and may no longer be considered "next-gen" consoles. They, along with the Nintendo 3DS and the Playstation Vita, form the current generation of consoles, and should be referred to as such. If you must use terminology emphasising that it's the generation that has only just begun, you may use "new gen", although "current gen" or "gen 8" is preferable. The PS3, the Xbox 360, the Wii, Nintendo DS, and PSP are now "last-gen". They should no longer be referred to as "current-gen". The phrase "next gen" is now for use when referring to the ninth generation, likely to begin between 2018 and 2020 for consoles and between 2016 and 2018 for handhelds. The Ouya is to be considered current-gen alongside Wii U, PS4, and Xbox One. The Steam Machine may be considered current-gen so long as it releases within the next couple of years. Finally, a refresher on the term "generation" itself - it does not refer to the amount of capability of the system, nor to specific features. It refers to release of systems that are distinct from their predecessor with a notable number of games that cannot be run on the predecessor. As a simplified approach, we group gaming generations by calendar dates, as the gaming industry has formed a fairly regular cycle of 5-8 years, with releases aligning fairly closely. Whether you feel that the Wii U is much more powerful than the Xbox 360 and PS3, or about the same, the release of the Wii U in 2012 makes it the same generation as the PS4 and Xbox One. |
sadly, it kinda does. When people say things like "truly next-gen" they are definitely referring to an amount of capability. Kinda like how 3d mario was next gen to 2d games.
While generation technically means period of time, I'd suggest you don't take things so literally. Otherwise, there's another thread I could point you to.
Hint: it's on the front-page right now.
PS3,Xbox 360,Wii won't be last gen until it is no longer selling. It like how PS2 are current gen when PS3 were release and PS1 were last gen.
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