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Teriol on 19 November 2013
superchunk said:
ViktorBKK said:
Nintendo will remain financially viable due to 3DS sales. This isn't the first time Nintendo launched a failed home console. The N64 and GameCube were consecutive commercial failures, yet Nintendo remained in business because of their handheld department, which has always been profitable. Even if we take the 3DS out of the equation, Nintendo sits on a huge pile of cash, I believe its around 10 billion dollars. So even if they somehow managed to screw their handhelds too, it would take years and years of consecutive failed products like the Wii U before they could go bankrupt.

Confused is you. N64 and GC both made Nintendo plenty of money. Xbox was a commercial failure yet it sold slightly more than GC.

 

Nintendo has only had one fail product and that was the virtual boy.

a lot of ignorance on that paragraph, thank Superchunk to enligthen this guy.



34 years playing games.

 

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Desertghost on 19 November 2013

Totally agree with you brah



Train wreck on 19 November 2013
superchunk said:
ViktorBKK said:
Nintendo will remain financially viable due to 3DS sales. This isn't the first time Nintendo launched a failed home console. The N64 and GameCube were consecutive commercial failures, yet Nintendo remained in business because of their handheld department, which has always been profitable. Even if we take the 3DS out of the equation, Nintendo sits on a huge pile of cash, I believe its around 10 billion dollars. So even if they somehow managed to screw their handhelds too, it would take years and years of consecutive failed products like the Wii U before they could go bankrupt.

Confused is you. N64 and GC both made Nintendo plenty of money. Xbox was a commercial failure yet it sold slightly more than GC.

 

Nintendo has only had one fail product and that was the virtual boy.

The gamecube did not make Nintendo money, if you look at Nintendo earnings from 2001 to 2005 (which is published on their website), in which they broke down hardware (handheld and console) and software, you will see that the gamecube (even with the help of the n64 the first couple years) resulted in pretty much flatline operating income (+/- a couple million yen), the gameboy color, gameboy advance and early DS where the sales and earnings driver for Nintendo during that time.



ps4tw on 19 November 2013
Soundwave said:
ps4tw said:
Didn't you get the memo? Apparently Nintendo will sell millions this Christmas rofl. Back to reality, Nintendo have been pushed out of the living room as they cashed in and sold out with the Wii, a one trick pony and failed to wisely invest the earnings.


That's a cold way to put it, but it's probably true. Nintendo really screwed up, with all the momenteum they had with the Wii they really could have taken their brand into prestigious new directions and expanded into areas like making a Facebook/Twitter like service with all the casuals they had eating out of the palm of their hand 4-5 years ago. 

They squandered all that and now that door is basically closed shut by a combination of Apple, Google, Microsoft, and Sony. 

Nintendo really was the darling of the 20-something crowd just a few years ago, but they failed to take that momenteum anywhere and instead of expanding out and creating a proper successor for the Wii with social networking features while the iron was hot, they chose to basically ride the Wii into the ground and instead of finding the next "Wii Sports" they focused on making Wii Sports 2 (Resort) and Wii Fit 2. 

I concur, although Nintendo are sitting on such a huge pile of money, billions, that theres still the chance they could start over and pull a phoenix, rising from the ashes of the wiiu. 



ViktorBKK on 19 November 2013
Teriol said:
superchunk said:
ViktorBKK said:
Nintendo will remain financially viable due to 3DS sales. This isn't the first time Nintendo launched a failed home console. The N64 and GameCube were consecutive commercial failures, yet Nintendo remained in business because of their handheld department, which has always been profitable. Even if we take the 3DS out of the equation, Nintendo sits on a huge pile of cash, I believe its around 10 billion dollars. So even if they somehow managed to screw their handhelds too, it would take years and years of consecutive failed products like the Wii U before they could go bankrupt.

Confused is you. N64 and GC both made Nintendo plenty of money. Xbox was a commercial failure yet it sold slightly more than GC.

 

Nintendo has only had one fail product and that was the virtual boy.

a lot of ignorance on that paragraph, thank Superchunk to enligthen this guy.


You are both ignorant but I couldn't care less. If you call going from the market dominant SNES to the almost irrelevant N64 a success, then you are obviously in denial. The gamecube isn't even worth discussing.



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Aielyn on 20 November 2013
ViktorBKK said:
You are both ignorant but I couldn't care less. If you call going from the market dominant SNES to the almost irrelevant N64 a success, then you are obviously in denial. The gamecube isn't even worth discussing.

You do understand that commercial success is measured on profit, not physical units sold, right?

You really shouldn't be calling other people ignorant. It doesn't just look bad, and it isn't just dangerous ground in terms of the forum TOS, but given the context, you're looking rather hypocritical, too.



NintendoPie on 20 November 2013
RolStoppable said:
Third parties control the industry. Sony and Microsoft are merely pawns.

We aren't talking about politics here, Rol.

Anyhow, you can't take either the PSV or 3DS out of the situation. You're just trying to ignore a positive.



Gee-Gee on 20 November 2013
osed125 said:
toastboy44562 said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:

I guess were pretending like the 3DS doesn't exist?


Home consoles only. I'm sure 3DS and PSV will both make money

So Wii U won't make money?

It won't. The underdog only makes money if it's Playstation.



ViktorBKK on 20 November 2013
Aielyn said:
ViktorBKK said:
You are both ignorant but I couldn't care less. If you call going from the market dominant SNES to the almost irrelevant N64 a success, then you are obviously in denial. The gamecube isn't even worth discussing.

You do understand that commercial success is measured on profit, not physical units sold, right?

You really shouldn't be calling other people ignorant. It doesn't just look bad, and it isn't just dangerous ground in terms of the forum TOS, but given the context, you're looking rather hypocritical, too.


I only replied to them in the same manner I was being addressed. If that means getting banned, so be it.

You do understand what an economy of scale is do you ? If a company spends x millions of dollars on R&D for a product. That product could end up selling millions, even on a healthy margin, and still not meet the quota for the company to be profitable. 30m lifetime sales of a console enough for profit? Just NO.



JazzB1987 on 20 November 2013

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