No, I have a 50 inch, but with a game in motion sitting from about 10 feet away, I cant see a difference between a game that is natively 1080p and a game that is upscaled to 1080p.  The whole debate is just nit picking at nothing.  

12 million more than XBL GOLD.... I don't see the correlation between people paying for MP and people having an account to play PC games... I have an active account on steam I don't play online games ever...  if anything having 53 million MP player on XB just proves my point....

there is no such thing as dead XBL gold accounts unless people are willing to pay for nothing which I highly doubt....

doesn't change that when you look at the average resolution on PC most people don't have beasty PCs and most people owning a PC don't play much on it.... of course if you geek out you can get better than a console at the same price or close to it.... but most people are not of that breed and would much rather buy an all in one solution to game and be entertained, that is easy to set up and hook up to their living room TV..... which is not a strong point for the PC, in most people mind anyway.... yeah you can argue all day that you can have an HTPC/gaming rig hook up to your TV and have a great gaming experience, but in reality most people don't even go there or don't perceive the PC like that.... even amongst geeks and gamers.... why do you think steam is looking into home consoles otherwise...

my point being the argument of PC gaming is a better solution holds true for a fraction of the people interested in video entertainement.... since even with people capable of setting up such a rig like me, some of them have no interest in doing so compared to the ease of use and convenience a console provides like me again....

it's not a matter price/power ratio, but price I'm willing to pay for convenience that I upgrade every 7 to 10 years with absolutely no maintenance beside dusting, with a couple cables no software or hardware to worry about and no minimum spec to worry about when buying games... all that in a nice package that fits under my TV nicely with some nice UI easy to use for anybody that can hold the pad and read a little and plenty of apps and gimmick to keep me entertained with way more familly and social friendlyness than any PC running on any OS with any hardware... at 400 to 500 bucks I'm willing to completely ignore PC for my main entertainement needs.... and that's what more and more people do whether they are tech capable or not.....

OP - 100% agree...

On my break, I had a ephiphany. The below pictures sums things up nicely.

You can't tell the difference between up-scaled and native on a 50 inch screen? :P

OP you are talking too much sense 'round these parts. Its best you move on before someone gets hurt.

this^^ in other words most people who have kinect friendly living room with a 50 inch TV will not see any difference between 1080p upscaled or not upscaled....

now that said even people with 1080p TVs over 50" seating closer than 10 feet.... I'd bet a ton of them have a poorly set up/calibrated systems, don't have a high end HD TV and therefore wouldn't see it either or better yet even if everything was set right and of good quality still don't have the eye to notice it.... that's like a lot of techie things most people have absolutely no clue what good full HD look like.... do the test with your relatives....

53 ppd threshold might be the point where you can't count the individual pixels anymore but that's far from the point where you no longer benefit from a higher resolution. Especially in games, rendering in higher resolution yields a much more stable picture when it comes to small detail. A downscaled you tube comparison is terrible for comparision. 1080p downscaled to 720p looks much better then native 720p.

I watch 1080p content at about 58 ppd on a projector, and the same content at 104 ppd on the living room tv. At 104 ppd the image looks pristine, at 58 ppd it holds up nicely, but far less sharp. Plus I can see the pixels on the projector and lots of sub pixel AA problems. At least 1080p looks a lot better then 720p.

Anyway my point is 53 ppd might be the point beyond which you can't read the tiniest possible font anymore but it is way low when it comes to rendered graphics. Btw where did you get 53 from? 20/20 vision corresponds to 30 cycles per degree, equals 60 pixels per degree, not 53?

Plus research and double blind tests have shown that people can still tell a difference up to 200 ppd, with a theoretical maximum of 300 ppd.

Sinusoidal gratings were used by Campbell and Green (1965) to determine the maximum resolution of the eye. They used interference patterns generated by a laser to bypass the optics of the eye to create a sinusoidal grating at the back of the eye. They found that the maximum resolution was about 60 cycles per degree, whereas a free viewing screen resulted in reduced resolution capabilities. More recent work on photoreceptor density and spatial resolution has shown that the receptor array in the human visual system can resolve in the order of 6/1 (20/3) or ~150 cycles/degree (Curcio et al, 1990; Miller et al., 1996; Roorda and Williams, 1999). Cone spacing at the fovea is approximately 2.5 um (Curcio et al, 1990) or approximately 28 seconds of arc. Based on cone spacing, a maximum of about 60 cycles per degree is possible, which is well above conventional clinical measures as this does not compensate for the optics of the eye and post-receptoral neural processing.

It's not a one on one process between screen and eyes, plus remember you have 2 eyes which both have a slightly different view and both contribute to the detail you see in the end. Resolution makes a difference.

It was never an issue for me xbox one is awesome and was always awesome cannot wait for the reaction when the console actually launches.

Wait until developers learn how to use the esram oh baby.

Well, i was going to explain it to you, but others have already done so.  Obviously there is a difference, but it is beyond what the human eye can see unless you are sitting way to close to your tv.  In which case you are probably going to ruin your eyes pretty soon so you wont be ab,e to see a difference anyway . Like I said, this whole resolution thing is a very minor, pointless thing to argue about.  This is coming from somebody that plans on getting a ps4 first, by the way.  Im not trying to downplay it to make the x1 seem better or at least equal.  It really does not matter to me at all, and it really shouldnt matter to anyone.