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How do you feel about the declining population of white people, worldwide?

It is good; white people ... 81 8.27%
 
It is good; we should be open to diversity. 152 15.53%
 
It is good; white people are bad. 66 6.74%
 
It is fine; there is noth... 169 17.26%
 
It is unfortunate; I wish... 80 8.17%
 
It is bad; white people a... 429 43.82%
 
Total:977
Netyaroze said:
withdreday said:
Netyaroze said:
withdreday said:
Netyaroze said:
withdreday said:

Do you even know the definition of racism? Racial nationalism IS racism.

 

I'll have to admit, that is a new one though. My lord...

 

The topic is not directed against a race its about white population slowly decreasing because white people do not have enough kids to make up for the dead people thats all. Yes racists like to use that fact to rile people up and use it in their agenda BUT its not directed against other races to say I do not like the trend of the white race going back in numbers. I am fine with other races I still dont like that maybe one day there will be way less white people than there is today.  

Explain to me HOW that Topic is racist Explain to me logically how it fits the definition of racism. You will not be able to because it doesnt fit the definition

Racism: the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

If guys like you and the OP didn't think one race was superior this wouldn't even be a topic. In fact the OP even went on a rant on "what great a civilization we have built."

You can keep living in fantasyland if you want, but that's the same way Neo Nazi's talk.


What gave you the idea that one race is superior I never said anything in that regard infact I think humans are humans and equally smart or stupid no matter the race. I dont talk like neo nazis do I guess you never seen neonazis they dont really talk that much. I find it pretty disturbing that you would just assume that I am a racist.

 

Keep on living in Fantasy land whats the fantasy land I am living in I am not the one adding stuff to the conversation and I am not OP nor have I have said anything remotley racist.

Why don't you take a look at one of the post saying the Red Cross should stop aiding Africa and they should just let them die off...Yeah i'm real sure that's not considered racist anywhere...

I bet your lats hurt sooo bad the way you're bending over backwards to defend this topic, But I know how your types think: "Deny, Deny, Deny..." It's not true if you don't admit it, right? lol

Dude, just because some people are typing racist things doesnt make the topic racist the topic does NOT fit the definition of racist. There is nothing you can do about that. Some people saying racist things does not not make the topic itself racist. I dont need to bend over since its a pretty clear and easy case to argue you are the one who has to have hurting lats by now since you try to make that topic somehow racist. Focus on the people that acted racist call them out not me. And dont dismiss the topic because of that, its a real thing occuring in the real world that has nothing to do with one race being superior to other races.   

lol, there's no telling you. You can think what you want but if a topic invites racist remarks, is often discussed by hardcore racist, and it requires constant backtracking to defend, I'd say that's a pretty racist topic.

It's amazing what people try to made non racist nowadays. I guess next it will be genocide. I can't wait for the replies to that one...



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withdreday said:
Netyaroze said:

 

Dude, just because some people are typing racist things doesnt make the topic racist the topic does NOT fit the definition of racist. There is nothing you can do about that. Some people saying racist things does not not make the topic itself racist. I dont need to bend over since its a pretty clear and easy case to argue you are the one who has to have hurting lats by now since you try to make that topic somehow racist. Focus on the people that acted racist call them out not me. And dont dismiss the topic because of that, its a real thing occuring in the real world that has nothing to do with one race being superior to other races.   

lol, there's no telling you. You can think what you want but if a topic invites racist remarks, is often discussed by hardcore racist, and it requires constant backtracking to defend, I'd say that's a pretty racist topic.

It's amazing what people try to made non racist nowadays. I guess next it will be genocide. I can't wait for the replies to that one...

So any topic that racists like to comment on is racist ? Constant backtracking to defend ? Backtracking as in:  To reverse one's position or policy ?

 

 When did I ever reverse my position ? Nothing I said is wrong. Is often discussed by hardcore racists ? Hardcore racists like to talk about anything that fits their agenda this topic fits in there, but it can be totally discussed without racism in mind and isnt inherently racist as it does not discriminate against other races.  

 

There is no telling me because you make no sense. I can not see the logic in your argumentation. I think you are oversensitive to racism and some insensitive racist remarks in this thread made you think that all people agreeing with the OP (sans hyperbole) must be racists because how could a well adjusted non racist type think its an undesirable result that white people drastically reduce in numbers. And I dont deny anything I stand behind my opinion its not racist not wanting white people to diminish in numbers drastically.



Netyaroze said:
withdreday said:
Netyaroze said:

 

Dude, just because some people are typing racist things doesnt make the topic racist the topic does NOT fit the definition of racist. There is nothing you can do about that. Some people saying racist things does not not make the topic itself racist. I dont need to bend over since its a pretty clear and easy case to argue you are the one who has to have hurting lats by now since you try to make that topic somehow racist. Focus on the people that acted racist call them out not me. And dont dismiss the topic because of that, its a real thing occuring in the real world that has nothing to do with one race being superior to other races.   

lol, there's no telling you. You can think what you want but if a topic invites racist remarks, is often discussed by hardcore racist, and it requires constant backtracking to defend, I'd say that's a pretty racist topic.

It's amazing what people try to made non racist nowadays. I guess next it will be genocide. I can't wait for the replies to that one...

So any topic that racists like to comment on is racist ? Constant backtracking to defend ? Backtracking as in:  To reverse one's position or policy ?

 

 When did I ever reverse my position ? Nothing I said is wrong. Is often discussed by hardcore racists ? Hardcore racists like to talk about anything that fits their agenda this topic fits in there, but it can be totally discussed without racism in mind and isnt inherently racist as it does not discriminate against other races.  

 

There is no telling me because you make no sense. I can not see the logic in your argumentation. I think you are oversensitive to racism and some insensitive racist remarks in this thread made you think that all people agreeing with the OP (sans hyperbole) must be racists because how could a well adjusted non racist type think its an undesirable result that white people drastically reduce in numbers. And I dont deny anything I stand behind my opinion its not racist not wanting white people to diminish in numbers drastically.

And there goes the over senstive to racism thing. That's the one I was waiting for.

Thank you for proving me right!



I maried a Portuguese and brought three beautiful half white, half Portuguese babies into this world. If enough whites and Portuguese were to breed, we could create a master race of half white, half Portugueses.



withdreday said:
Netyaroze said:
withdreday said:
Netyaroze said:

 

Dude, just because some people are typing racist things doesnt make the topic racist the topic does NOT fit the definition of racist. There is nothing you can do about that. Some people saying racist things does not not make the topic itself racist. I dont need to bend over since its a pretty clear and easy case to argue you are the one who has to have hurting lats by now since you try to make that topic somehow racist. Focus on the people that acted racist call them out not me. And dont dismiss the topic because of that, its a real thing occuring in the real world that has nothing to do with one race being superior to other races.   

lol, there's no telling you. You can think what you want but if a topic invites racist remarks, is often discussed by hardcore racist, and it requires constant backtracking to defend, I'd say that's a pretty racist topic.

It's amazing what people try to made non racist nowadays. I guess next it will be genocide. I can't wait for the replies to that one...

So any topic that racists like to comment on is racist ? Constant backtracking to defend ? Backtracking as in:  To reverse one's position or policy ?

 

 When did I ever reverse my position ? Nothing I said is wrong. Is often discussed by hardcore racists ? Hardcore racists like to talk about anything that fits their agenda this topic fits in there, but it can be totally discussed without racism in mind and isnt inherently racist as it does not discriminate against other races.  

 

There is no telling me because you make no sense. I can not see the logic in your argumentation. I think you are oversensitive to racism and some insensitive racist remarks in this thread made you think that all people agreeing with the OP (sans hyperbole) must be racists because how could a well adjusted non racist type think its an undesirable result that white people drastically reduce in numbers. And I dont deny anything I stand behind my opinion its not racist not wanting white people to diminish in numbers drastically.

And there goes the over senstive to racism thing. That's the one I was waiting for.

Thank you for proving me right!


I am not proving you right you do not argue at all. You are clearly oversensitive since you accused me of (hidden) racism but there is no evidence to support your claim. You were just waiting for me to say anything you could take personally just to dismiss all my arguments which you couldnt even dismiss once with logic. This is just poor form on your part. Next time try to actually argue with me instead of throwing accusations in my direction. But fine take your exit chance I don`t see a fruitful discussion anyway.

 

And again. You are oversensitive to racism since you interpreted  non racist posts from me as racism, your behaviour is the definiton of oversensitive.

Oversensitive: excessively responsive to or aware of feelings, reactions which clearly explains your way of arguing (or not arguing to be precise) your case until now.   

 

Btw if people repeatedly accused you of being oversensitive (since you waited for it) did you ever thought they might be right ? Dont be so defensive and emotional if there is no need to and maybe you won`t hear it that often.



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First I've got to apologize for starting off this conversation with such an angry tone.  Obviously that sort of rhetoric leads to less of the constructive dialogue that has, nonetheless, taken place in this conversation, and more to the sort of flamewars that have seemed to dominate the discussion.  My first mistake in starting this topic, I say, is the angry tone that I took in presenting my views.  I don't think that starting this topic has been a mistake - I think that there has been some constructive dialogue and some changed views, even amidst all of the hardened attacks and flames.  You'll notice that I didn't respond to attacks on my character - these are clearly unwarranted and reflect more on the attacker than on the person attacked.

This being said, white people are decreasing not just as proportionately, but in actual numbers, worldwide.  Past white-majority countries are becoming less so.  When I referred to the 'future white minority', I was not talking about in terms of world population - obviously white people are a minority worldwide - but in the countries that have historically belonged to white people.  All of the institutions of these countries have been developed, societally, by white people.

Point of clarification: 'white people', to me, refers very much so to a cultural identity, and not so much to skin color.  Yes, white people are white, but it isn't so much the skin color that is to be preserved, as it is the shared history, culture, institutions, ideas, as so on.  Let me make this clear: if this culture had been created by black people, and I was black, then I'd be making it this point about black people.  I don't believe that a white person's skin color make white people inherently superior to any other group of people.  Furthermore, no, I don't believe that Western culture is superior to other cultures, or that Western history is superior to the history of other cultures (not by a longshot), or that white people's institutions are inherently better than those of other cultures.

But I do think that we a valuable component of any world.  Our institutions are important and have obviously exerted a powerful influence worldwide.  And our shared culture, history, the ideas that white people have passed on from generation to generation - these are specific to us.  Other people cannot be made to share in this identity at will.  Consequently, if it is to be passed on, we must procreate. I think that any group of people need to do their best to preserve their identity.

Now I've been called a racist by many in this conversation.  I can understand why you'd say that.  But in reality, distinguishing between ethnic groups is not racism - this is, of course, the premise of affirmative action programs.  In reality, it is true that certain groups of people share certain needs.  Black Americans are impoverished compared with the average White American.  Actions are taken.  This is good, this is appropriate, let us make a more equitable society.  And White Americans have needs too.  This is true regardless of historical white privelege, of historical white power, of the fact that white people are a majority in this country right now.  Do white people need to become the minority in all of their own countries in order to for us to concern ourselves?  I feel that it is best to apply medicine at the earliest stage of a sickness, instead of waiting for patient to near death.

One problem that we have, collectively, is that of maintaining ourselves.  We are failing to reproduce.  As problems should be solved, regardless of perceived affluence, we should work to solve this problem; furthermore, as we've established that we can and should distinguish between differing groups of people based on certain criterion, we are able to say that yes, white people have this problem.  Now what should be done?  That is, to me, the question - I think something should be done, but what?  This is a difficult question.



NolSinkler said:

First I've got to apologize for starting off this conversation with such an angry tone.  Obviously that sort of rhetoric leads to less of the constructive dialogue that has, nonetheless, taken place in this conversation, and more to the sort of flamewars that have seemed to dominate the discussion.  My first mistake in starting this topic, I say, is the angry tone that I took in presenting my views.  I don't think that starting this topic has been a mistake - I think that there has been some constructive dialogue and some changed views, even amidst all of the hardened attacks and flames.  You'll notice that I didn't respond to attacks on my character - these are clearly unwarranted and reflect more on the attacker than on the person attacked.

This being said, white people are decreasing not just as proportionately, but in actual numbers, worldwide.  Past white-majority countries are becoming less so.  When I referred to the 'future white minority', I was not talking about in terms of world population - obviously white people are a minority worldwide - but in the countries that have historically belonged to white people.  All of the institutions of these countries have been developed, societally, by white people.

Point of clarification: 'white people', to me, refers very much so to a cultural identity, and not so much to skin color.  Yes, white people are white, but it isn't so much the skin color that is to be preserved, as it is the shared history, culture, institutions, ideas, as so on.  Let me make this clear: if this culture had been created by black people, and I was black, then I'd be making it this point about black people.  I don't believe that a white person's skin color make white people inherently superior to any other group of people.  Furthermore, no, I don't believe that Western culture is superior to other cultures, or that Western history is superior to the history of other cultures (not by a longshot), or that white people's institutions are inherently better than those of other cultures.

But I do think that we a valuable component of any world.  Our institutions are important and have obviously exerted a powerful influence worldwide.  And our shared culture, history, the ideas that white people have passed on from generation to generation - these are specific to us.  Other people cannot be made to share in this identity at will.  Consequently, if it is to be passed on, we must procreate. I think that any group of people need to do their best to preserve their identity.

Now I've been called a racist by many in this conversation.  I can understand why you'd say that.  But in reality, distinguishing between ethnic groups is not racism - this is, of course, the premise of affirmative action programs.  In reality, it is true that certain groups of people share certain needs.  Black Americans are impoverished compared with the average White American.  Actions are taken.  This is good, this is appropriate, let us make a more equitable society.  And White Americans have needs too.  This is true regardless of historical white privelege, of historical white power, of the fact that white people are a majority in this country right now.  Do white people need to become the minority in all of their own countries in order to for us to concern ourselves?  I feel that it is best to apply medicine at the earliest stage of a sickness, instead of waiting for patient to near death.

One problem that we have, collectively, is that of maintaining ourselves.  We are failing to reproduce.  As problems should be solved, regardless of perceived affluence, we should work to solve this problem; furthermore, as we've established that we can and should distinguish between differing groups of people based on certain criterion, we are able to say that yes, white people have this problem.  Now what should be done?  That is, to me, the question - I think something should be done, but what?  This is a difficult question.


and that is the question that you should be VERY careful with

 

I live in America and the majority race i see is white. I look around and i see white people having babies just as much as other races. I do however see a lot of white women AND white men dating "outside" of their race. Is it because they hate being white? No. It's because they just simply thought the other person from the other race was attractive and they get along with them.

 

I really don't see any white people NOT having babies so i'm guessing you're talking about the whole Interracial thing. That has to be what you are mostly talking about. 

 

You must remember that it takes 2 people to have a kid.  White people are "Adventuring out" just as much as every other race. Every other race has to be declining just as much as the white race going by this. 

 

I seriously see EVERY race dating outside of their race. Spanish, Black, Asian AND WHITE.

 

So i hope that your answer doesn't fall anywhere near the "maybe we need to stop this interracial/mixing thing completely". There are plenty of white on white couples but i do also see white on (insert other race) couples just as much these days and the same goes for every other race.



Who cares? People are people doesn't matter the colour of our skin. My hope is one day skin colour won't be how the world defines us, that we'll be each known for our character and how we treat each other and not stereotyped because of the amount of melanin in our epidermis.

Over all world population might be problematic from a resource use PoV, but the relative proportion of white skinned people in the population is irrelevant.

Diversity FTW!

No surprise in the poll result though. It's about as skewed as a PS vs Xb poll.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

I feel a mixture of 4 and 6... though prolly just because I am white



Vasto said:
I live in Texas. White people have been a minority.

Then why do you keep voting Republican? It's not blacks or hispanics doing that, i'll tell you.



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