| NolSinkler said: First I've got to apologize for starting off this conversation with such an angry tone. Obviously that sort of rhetoric leads to less of the constructive dialogue that has, nonetheless, taken place in this conversation, and more to the sort of flamewars that have seemed to dominate the discussion. My first mistake in starting this topic, I say, is the angry tone that I took in presenting my views. I don't think that starting this topic has been a mistake - I think that there has been some constructive dialogue and some changed views, even amidst all of the hardened attacks and flames. You'll notice that I didn't respond to attacks on my character - these are clearly unwarranted and reflect more on the attacker than on the person attacked. This being said, white people are decreasing not just as proportionately, but in actual numbers, worldwide. Past white-majority countries are becoming less so. When I referred to the 'future white minority', I was not talking about in terms of world population - obviously white people are a minority worldwide - but in the countries that have historically belonged to white people. All of the institutions of these countries have been developed, societally, by white people. Point of clarification: 'white people', to me, refers very much so to a cultural identity, and not so much to skin color. Yes, white people are white, but it isn't so much the skin color that is to be preserved, as it is the shared history, culture, institutions, ideas, as so on. Let me make this clear: if this culture had been created by black people, and I was black, then I'd be making it this point about black people. I don't believe that a white person's skin color make white people inherently superior to any other group of people. Furthermore, no, I don't believe that Western culture is superior to other cultures, or that Western history is superior to the history of other cultures (not by a longshot), or that white people's institutions are inherently better than those of other cultures. But I do think that we a valuable component of any world. Our institutions are important and have obviously exerted a powerful influence worldwide. And our shared culture, history, the ideas that white people have passed on from generation to generation - these are specific to us. Other people cannot be made to share in this identity at will. Consequently, if it is to be passed on, we must procreate. I think that any group of people need to do their best to preserve their identity. Now I've been called a racist by many in this conversation. I can understand why you'd say that. But in reality, distinguishing between ethnic groups is not racism - this is, of course, the premise of affirmative action programs. In reality, it is true that certain groups of people share certain needs. Black Americans are impoverished compared with the average White American. Actions are taken. This is good, this is appropriate, let us make a more equitable society. And White Americans have needs too. This is true regardless of historical white privelege, of historical white power, of the fact that white people are a majority in this country right now. Do white people need to become the minority in all of their own countries in order to for us to concern ourselves? I feel that it is best to apply medicine at the earliest stage of a sickness, instead of waiting for patient to near death. One problem that we have, collectively, is that of maintaining ourselves. We are failing to reproduce. As problems should be solved, regardless of perceived affluence, we should work to solve this problem; furthermore, as we've established that we can and should distinguish between differing groups of people based on certain criterion, we are able to say that yes, white people have this problem. Now what should be done? That is, to me, the question - I think something should be done, but what? This is a difficult question. |
and that is the question that you should be VERY careful with
I live in America and the majority race i see is white. I look around and i see white people having babies just as much as other races. I do however see a lot of white women AND white men dating "outside" of their race. Is it because they hate being white? No. It's because they just simply thought the other person from the other race was attractive and they get along with them.
I really don't see any white people NOT having babies so i'm guessing you're talking about the whole Interracial thing. That has to be what you are mostly talking about.
You must remember that it takes 2 people to have a kid. White people are "Adventuring out" just as much as every other race. Every other race has to be declining just as much as the white race going by this.
I seriously see EVERY race dating outside of their race. Spanish, Black, Asian AND WHITE.
So i hope that your answer doesn't fall anywhere near the "maybe we need to stop this interracial/mixing thing completely". There are plenty of white on white couples but i do also see white on (insert other race) couples just as much these days and the same goes for every other race.
