While some companies tries to master the 20nm... Intel is already moving to 14nm.

http://vr-zone.com/articles/intels-broadwell-k-launching-end-2014-according-new-roadmap/60966.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=intels-broadwell-k-launching-end-2014-according-new-roadmap

I'm for Intel but I'm sad at the same time because they almost killed (killed is not the right word... I mean obliterated) AMD from CPU market... the gap is too big in any term... Intel didn't have any competition in this market today

Sames seems to happen with nVidia in the GPU market .

So if Haswell Refresh and Broadwell-K is on the same socket does that mean they are sticking with DDR3 on mainstream CPUs in 2014? Or can the roll out DDR4 support without changing the socket?

I haven't really been following too closely, I know Haswell-E will be DDR4 with a new chipset/socket revision.

If AMD were to come out with Steamroller in early 2014, and it had the same 30% boost over PD that PD had over BD...It could seriously give Haswell some major competition.  But it seems AMD might just give up instead... :'(

Also AMD is crazy competitive with Nvidia!  LOL you crazy?!

They don't need to change the socket for DDR4 support but they need a new CPU and chipset.

For the graphic only the Haswell-E with X99 will support DDR4.

Broadwell-K will be on the same socket 1150 as the current Haswells. It won't be untill after Broadwell and the introduction of a new socket that the mainstream will adopt DDR4 on the Intel platform, which by then should mean DDR4 will be cheaper.

Looking forward to the 8-core Haswell-E though, 20-25% improvements in IPC along with a 33% increase in execution resources over my 6-core Sandy-Bridge-E? Yes please!

AMD *could* give Haswell a run for it's money with Steamroller and high-clockspeeds, Haswell-E though? That ain't happening. :P

AMD has given up chasing the high-end/enthusiast market, at-least for now anyway, most of their focus has shifted away from servers and high-end platforms and focusing on the mainstream segments, such as their APU line.

AMD can't compete with neither.

Intel almost killed AMD in CPU market and nVidia gained again market share... AMD sales for CPU, GPU and Chipset are down yoy while the competition are up.

What kind of "crazy competitive" is that?

What saved AMD from the bankruptcy was the APUs (up yoy due consoles deals).

PS. AMD is having trouble ($$$) to go to 22/20nm too... I think Intel will reach 14nm before AMD 22/20nm.

AMD will return... Just wait and see

Oh I know it is just a *could*,  but I really wish it would come true.  If the FX-8490 (Or whatever it would be called) was clocked at 5+ GHz it could compete with Haswell-E.  But it would need a new socket with DDR4 and PCIE-3.0 to have any chance of getting Enthusiast marker share...

The 7970 had the performance crown for over a year, and Nvidia owning a little of over 50% of the market is not any type of domination...

62/38 the market share.

And when HD 7970 had the performance crown? GTX 680 always peroformed on pair with it... to be fair I read more about GTX 680 performance crown than HD 7970.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 Review: Retaking The Performance Crown

"To that extent this is a very different launch – the GTX 680 is faster, less power hungry, and quieter than the Radeon HD 7970. NVIDIA has landed the technical trifecta, and to top it off they’ve priced it comfortably below the competition."

GTX 680 was a crazy launch for nVidia faster, "green", quieter and cheaper.