HOW are there ANY console gamers in Brazil??? I love games, but there is no way, NO WAY, I would be buying ANY of these consoles at that price ever.

I'm sure over 90% pay close to $500.

This one is the "imported" by Sony Brasil... any other company import it for way less.

It really is a shame for the mass market here in Brazil that will be forced to opt for the Xbox One, but for gamers it really doesn't make much of a difference at all.

The only stores that will be selling the PS4 for this price are the big ones, the small game stores will all be importing from Paraguay or USA and will be selling them at a much cheaper rate (still expensive comparatively to the US, as they do need to make a hefty 50% profit on it).

In the end all Sony did was hurt themselves here, it is preferable to retreat and call a delay on the official launch date until they start using their factory in the country (currently building PS3s) to make PS4s. No one will me buying this official version as: if they have the money they will probably travel abroad and bring it back (get a vacation and a PS4 and still save money on it or opt for the grey market). Retailers are already pissed off at them, knowing they don't stand a chance of competing with the grey market and might retaliate accordingly.

Microsoft thanks Sony for this HUGE publicity boost though, cant get any better free publicity than this.

I kinda expected it. Here in Brasil, I must say MS >>>>>>>> Sony when it comes to prices and deals. Hell, even Nintendo has better prices here than Sony. If anyone is going to buy a PS4 here, get ready to go to Paraguay.

i guess you have to be rich to get consoles in brazil.  but i heard the internet infrastructure is real crappy there as well

Most people didn't buy from Sony Brasil so you pay ~50-80% than the US price... I will check the preorders prices here to post later.

About internet? I live in São Paulo and I don't have nothing to complain.

I did that test via VPN (without the VPN the results are better).

I just checked the gray market

They are saying the PS4 will cost R$1200 to R$1600 ($)... at least US$550.

The issue will be find it this year

Surprised nobody seems to have brought this up. So does this mean that they are making Xbox One's in Brazil and not PS4s?

As I understand many of high cost are for import taxes for not being made in Brazil. Both Sony and Microsoft have opened factories there to bring the cost down - which is one of the reasons for those tariffs.

I think they also make some of the Xbox 360s they sell all over South America and Mexico.

Fortunately the Internet is alright. At least on the region I live, they deliver what you have bought.

Sorry wrong thread.