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shinsa on 16 October 2013
JustThatGamer said:
Galvanizer said:
KylieDog said:
Screw that, I want a sequel to DmC. Fixed everything wrong with the DMC series.

You underestimate the potential of a DMC5 would be from the original series creator and director of Bayonetta, the most critically acclaimed Action game of the current generation.

Not quite, Metacritic/GameRankings

1st: GoW III - M = 92.71%. G = 92.63%. (93%)

2nd: GoW C - M = 90.86%. G = 90.62%. (91%)

3rd: Bayonetta (360) - M = 89.79%. G = 89.89%. (90%)

 

Also I think DmC is actually decent, much better than DMC 1-4 (haven't completed any of them but played enough to know I don't like them). I think Ninja Theory should have another chance, Kamiya should just work on other things.


I wouldnt go as far to say that DmC is better then dmc1 and 3 but its most deffintly better then 2 and 4.

maybe its the nostalga talking but for me it does Dmc3>=Dmc1>DmC>Dmc4>>>>>Dmc2

dmc1 is outdated but give that and dmc3 another try, they are the best in the series. 



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Dr.EisDrachenJaeger on 16 October 2013
A203D said:
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
kupomogli said:
adriane23 said:
Not a fan of the series, but I know my brother will be pleased to hear this. He hated the DMC remake, like most DMC fans did.

Most fans hated the remake because it was different.  I'm one of them.  That is, until I actually played it.  I watched a friend play it through the full game and I've played through about half of it myself as I don't own it yet, but for the time I've spent with it, it could possibly be better than any Capcom developed DMC games.  As for the character models and story, after people stop letting bias about the original series get in the way and take it as a new take then they'll probably like the new Dante and Vergil just as much as the old ones.

Vergil's doesn't look as cool as he did on DMC3, but he's still just as badass.  If you're not going to play the game or don't mind a spoiler watch the ending.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXaz6XczZNI 

I'd rather have a new DmC from Ninja Theory than a new DMC. 

Similar to DmC reboot, I'm also a huge Castlevania fan.  I'm just as much a Castlevania fan as I am a Final Fantasy fan.  I hated Lords of Shadow before playing it because it went against the timeline that has already been set up prior to release.  Once I gave it a chance and took it as Lords of Shadow and not Castlevania, it's such a good game that it's my favorite this gen.  If I letmy bias about it not being Castlevania continue getting in the way, I would have missed out on such an amazing game.  


They're all crappy characters and the combat doesnt have a dodge offset.

Kamiya games are better.

On that note. DMC1 the best. DMC2 isnt even DMC.  DMC4 had a nice system.

I admit I was a bit dissapointed that DmC didn't have Dodge Offset. Yet DmC does have an analogue to that, which is Combo Offset. This is new to the DMC series. Bayonetta on the other hand dosen't have Combo Offset. I don't think Ninja Theory should have Dodge Offset because DmC has its own unique evasion manouvers, it shoulnd't copy Bayonetta. Bayonetta has its own manouvers, so it shoulnd't have DmC's.

When you say DMC2 isn't even DMC, you need to realise none of the games are sequels to DMC1. Especially not DMC4 which is very far from the original game. True DMC4 had goof combat, yet Capcom needed to move that combat forward which is what they did with DmC. DMC4 was still using the button lock relic from the Resident Evil games. I appreciate some people like DMC4, but pretending the game is a sequel to DMC1 to dismiss DmC is deceptive.

DMC4 was the start of a new series with Nero and Kyrie as the new main characters. It was not a contination of DMC1.

No I mean it was another project. Like when Dinosaur Planet became Starfox Adventures.

 

Or like when Resident Evil became DMC. DMC4 started out as a DMC game at least



A203D on 16 October 2013
Galvanizer said:

Actually, the DMC series has a non-linear narrative. The official timeline is DMC3 -> DMC1 -> DMC4 -> DMC2.

Therefore, taking this into account, there's a chance that Kamiya will set DMC5 directly after DMC1 and long before DMC4.

Here is the information about the graphic novels:

http://devilmaycry.wikia.com/wiki/Devil_May_Cry_Volume_1

There are two graphic novels, which were written before Capcom decided to restart Dante's story again with DMC3. The graphic novels were very close to the original DMC game.

Capcom for reasons we don't completely understand decided to make DMC2 without the original team. After that game was not recieved as well as they hoped they went back and retold Dante's origin story in DMC3. Which consequently removed the novels that coninsided with the original game.

I don't think DMC1 and DMC3 work in the same continuity, partly because of that and partly because of something that happens at the beginning of DMC1.

While I did want to see DMC1 continue, I personally don't want to see Capcom making DMC games anymore, because I don't think Capcom make very good games anymore, and I didn't see DMC4 moving the series forward.

That being said I do consider DMC1 to be the best DMC game until DmC. DMC3 was also a good game, but for me DMC1 has a type of melconic atmosphere that DMC3 didn't quite capture. DMC3 was much better combat wise. One of that moments I really like in DMC1 is when Dante is standing in front of the mirror, and he can step through the mirror into the demon world, where everything is the opposite way round.

That type of thing was never really done again in the series. The series became go into a room, beat a bunch of demons, open a door with red orbs or with a special key. There was never much variety in the level design or the gameplay in my view; and personally I never saw Capcom moving beyond this gameplay formula. Which is probably how they felt after DMC4 anyway.

I mean that part of DMC1 where you can read the letter in the Castellian's bedroom, or you can investigate parts of the environment like in Resident Evil. Those things never felt the same in the sequel DMC games. DMC4 was simply taking the series too repitive and well... too boring imo, I had no interest in seeing it continue.

That being said,  I don't accept DmC as a DMC game. Yet its not supposed to be, I do accept it as a reboot in an alternate reality; and I enjoy it very much on that level.



A203D on 16 October 2013
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:

No I mean it was another project. Like when Dinosaur Planet became Starfox Adventures.

 

Or like when Resident Evil became DMC. DMC4 started out as a DMC game at least

I actually think DMC2 was good in some respects, sure the gameplay was below average. But the gothic tone of the game, the story, Dante, and Bloody Palace were actually not bad. I liked the dark style of the game, to me it did feel like DMC, it just played nothing like it.

For example DMC2's Bloody Palace is absolutely mental. In one of the rooms you can engage up to 3 Despair Embodided at once. None of the other games featured anything that mental.

The one good thing about the combat is the Chrono Heart, which integrates time dilation into Devil Trigger. Rather than being optional like DMC1. DMC2 also has a seperate dodge button which worked very well compared to the locked dodging of the other DMC games.

Sure I'm the first to stand up and say DMC2 wasn't very good, but it wasn't that bad either.



Dr.EisDrachenJaeger on 16 October 2013

It has nice mechanics and bad execution^
So Capcom went back to the drawing board.
Instead of shoehorning mechanics into something different. I always liked how Kamiya did DMC1.



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aviggo77 on 17 October 2013

hey if this is real then what is dmc devil may cry?isnt it dmc5



A203D on 17 October 2013
aviggo77 said:
hey if this is real then what is dmc devil may cry?isnt it dmc5

Its a reboot in a new continuity. The previous DMC games exist in an alternate universe.

Capcom did say before DMC4 was released that they might decide to make DMC5 if the fans were interested in that. So I would contact Capcom, which this thread aims to do if your interested in seeing that.



A203D on 25 October 2013

Maybe some good news for some:

http://www.examiner.com/article/director-interested-ps4-sequels-dragon-s-dogma-2-and-devil-may-cry-5

Hideaki Itsuno says he has some ideas to continue with DMC5. This could actually be a good thing.