I don't think I've ever read anything anywhere that is more wrong than this.

You obviously don't know any Valve fanboys.

Finally some sense!

Plus you can do all your PC stuff on there as well. Most people that are tech-heads are considering a desktop solution in the living room. This will make it easy. I'm actually surprised that people are so baffled as to the purpose of this machine... Pc in your living room that's geared for multimedia purposes and has access to a gargantuan library of games that are (way) cheaper than next gen and will occasionally be more technically impressive. In 2/3 years most Steam games on a upper-tear Steambox will look better than next gen consoles. Why is it so hard to see that this is pretty alluring for a gamer?

Whenever I see posts like these I try to restrain myself from commenting. People just dont get it. They expect a $400-$500 console to compete with a more expensive machine toe to toe. lol. I will be getting a ps4. As for steam console I will build my own rig as I have always build my previous rigs. Building pc means freedom of choice. I dont want to go with the mainstream and get a "console" branded as a pc.

sincerely this doesnt make any sense
and i see zero future for this

http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/ <====

I like. If I can open the sucker up and change the ram and GPU then we're good. I mean, an i7 is gonna last me a very long time so if I can swap out the GPU and keep a good form factor then this is amazing. One of my biggest problem with the rig I built is that it was too big. If I can translate that power to a box slightly bigger than a PS4 then I'm game.

The sad truth is...

Linux is nowhere near as bood as Windows in terms of game optimizations... I don't like DirectX but even OpenGL runs better on Windows than Linux... the nVidia driver is years ahead in Windows and the AMD one, well AMD didn't have a driver (I can't call what they have for Linux today a driver ).

The SteamOS is a good ideia but first they will need to fix these issues on Linux... give good and optimized drivers, APIs and devtools for games on Linux... it is a long way to go yet.

I think we have a comunication problem here.

I'm not talking about the OS, I'm talking about the hardware, the machines, the 300 prototypes that all of them are powered by Intel CPUs and Nvidia GPUs.

They need to use AMD parts to get as much data as possible in order to avoid problems when the final machines are launched, some with AMD parts and/or when people use their own PCs with AMD parts with the free SteamOS.

That's my problem with those 300 boxes... unless Valve decides to go only Intel/Nvidia, but that would be a stupid move.

You are both right and wrong, they are pretty even for the most part TBH, it will depend on how much Nvidia can optimize the OS, and how much AMD will provide the support for it.