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mutantclown on 02 October 2013

They would do well to just keep quiet...



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ethomaz on 02 October 2013

ListerOfSmeg said:

Being 30 million behind 3DS already I seriously doubt it. Especially with things like Vita TV coming out and confusing the average consumer. Accoring to many these people are so confused by the U in Wii U they dont know what to do. I dont see how vita and Vita TV arent going to cause the same issues

I was just... kidding

Wii U and Vita are dead consoles... they will sell of course but not close to be winner or susseful.



Machiavellian on 02 October 2013
ethomaz said:
So Xbone is even more weaker than the specs suggest lol.

The increase in clock is more for increase the 16 ROPs power than the GPU performance... Xbone lacks in specs and that can't be overcome into optimizations or tricks.

And PS4 didn't use GPU for nothing of the OS... only CPU.

ethomaz, why do you make statements you cannot prove.  How do you know if Sony is using any GPU for any parts of their system.  Even Mark Cerny stated if you wanted to do any special effects for Audio you need to use the CPU or GPU on the PS4.  Stop making stuff up and stating it as a fact.



Machiavellian on 02 October 2013
ethomaz said:

Machiavellian said:

Its interesting that no one on GAF trust this guy because if you read the stuff he has reported, he leaves the opinion part out and just give the details or ask the questions.  This article is a prime example.  No opinion parts really, just questions and letting the engineers tell their story.  I find the article a very interesting read since it gives a good understanding of MS design decisions.

MS articles = PR news, he just wrote what MS wants (no opinion)
Sony articles = He put his opinion saying this is bad everytime

That's the difference.

Show me this mytical Sony article where he puts in his opinion.  Show me this mytical Sony interview as well while you are at it.



Dark_Feanor on 02 October 2013

7 Weeks to go and no PS4 game to show the 50% "pawar".

It´s starting to geting pathetic how people spin the information. There is probally people here how still belive PS4 uses all CPU cores and only 1GB of OS for games, or a selectively forgeting that only 14 of PS4 CUs are usable for rendering.

I´m realy looking foward to neogaf reaction when very few games show very little discrepancy between the consoles.



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ethomaz on 02 October 2013

Machiavellian said:

ethomaz, why do you make statements you cannot prove.  How do you know if Sony is using any GPU for any parts of their system.  Even Mark Cerny stated if you wanted to do any special effects for Audio you need to use the CPU or GPU on the PS4.  Stop making stuff up and stating it as a fact.

Raycasting audio dude will use GPU, audio effects is done in CPU... after all the Game Developer can or choose to use it... not the OS.

PS4 OS didn't use GPU lol... try again or do a better research first... you failed everytime.



ethomaz on 02 October 2013

Machiavellian said:

Show me this mytical Sony article where he puts in his opinion.  Show me this mytical Sony interview as well while you are at it.

www.eurogamer.com > Digital Foundry > Every article write by Leadbetter about PS4... and his opinion is in about every article about multiplataform games for Xbone x PS4 too... just research.



Machiavellian on 02 October 2013
ethomaz said:

Machiavellian said:

ethomaz, why do you make statements you cannot prove.  How do you know if Sony is using any GPU for any parts of their system.  Even Mark Cerny stated if you wanted to do any special effects for Audio you need to use the CPU or GPU on the PS4.  Stop making stuff up and stating it as a fact.

Raycasting audio dude will use GPU, audio effects is done in CPU... after all the Game Developer can or choose to use it... not the OS.

PS4 OS didn't use GPU lol... try again or do a better research first... you failed everytime.

The point is that Sony has not told us everything the PS4 does or how it allocate memory or how it uses resources to do anything non game related.  You have no clue if the PS4 uses the GPU for anything outside of gaming but you present an opinion again and state it as fact.  The person who keeps failing is you.  Show me anywhere where Sony has stated they do not use their GPU for any processes outside of gaming and I will gladly state you are correct.  Either that or stop making opinions and stating them as facts.



ethomaz on 02 October 2013

Machiavellian said:

The point is that Sony has not told us everything the PS4 does or how it allocate memory or how it uses resources to do anything non game related.  You have no clue if the PS4 uses the GPU for anything outside of gaming but you present an opinion again and state it as fact.  The person who keeps failing is you.  Show me anywhere where Sony has stated they do not use their GPU for any processes outside of gaming and I will gladly state you are correct.  Either that or stop making opinions and stating them as facts.

Yes... I have.

PS4 didn't feature anything in OS that uses GPU... there is no hardware acceleration in the OS... Xbone uses GPU for OS because it uses hardware acceleration for key features... stop spreading false information.



Dark_Feanor on 02 October 2013
ethomaz said:

Machiavellian said:

ethomaz, why do you make statements you cannot prove.  How do you know if Sony is using any GPU for any parts of their system.  Even Mark Cerny stated if you wanted to do any special effects for Audio you need to use the CPU or GPU on the PS4.  Stop making stuff up and stating it as a fact.

Raycasting audio dude will use GPU, audio effects is done in CPU... after all the Game Developer can or choose to use it... not the OS.

PS4 OS didn't use GPU lol... try again or do a better research first... you failed everytime.


So, the PS4 CPU is overloaded with OS taks? Given that the CPU is 10% slower and Sony made less customisation and less discret processors...

In fact!!! How do you now how the PS4 OS works?