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osed125 said:
the_dengle said:
osed125 said:

Let's look at 3 of the best selling Zelda games. Ocarina of Time, Twilight Princess and the original NES one.

First OoT:

  • N64 install base in NA: 20.11m
  • OoT copies sold in NA: 4.10m
  • Attach rate of ~ 0.20
  • N64 install base in Japan: 5.54m 
  • OoT copies sold in Japan: 1.45m
  • Attach rate of ~0.26

Second Twilight Princess:

  • Wii install base in NA: 44.85m
  • TP copies sold in NA: 3.60m
  • Attach rate of ~ 0.080
  • Wii install base in Japan: 12.74m 
  • TP copies sold in Japan: 0.60m
  • Attach rate of ~ 0.047

Third Legend of Zelda NES:

  • NES install base in NA: 33.49m
  • LoZ copies sold in NA: 3.74m
  • Attach rate of ~ 0.11
  • NES install base in Japan: 19.35m 
  • LoZ copies sold in Japan: 1.69m
  • Attach rate of ~ 0.08

As you can see only Ocarina of Time had a bigger attach ratio in Japan than NA, the other games have a smaller one in Japan. The rest are probably the same, maybe the handheld ones have a bigger attach ratio in Japan considering the handhelds popularity.

Now do Wind Waker.

I did more after that post, Wind Waker has a bigger attach ratio in Japan (0.22 vs 0.20). I also did the handheld games and surprisingly Phantom Hourglass has a bigger attach ratio in NA than Japan (0.031 vs 0.028). I'm too lazy to do all Zelda games but if the pattern stays the same, is obvious too see that considering the market difference, Zelda is more popular in NA than Japan (in most cases).

It is when they make a game that appeals to Americans like Twilight Princess. And the 20% attach rate of Wind Waker in America shows that maybe it wasn't so unpopular as so many people think it was.



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Scisca said:
The aggression from Nintendo fans in thread is just ridiculous and humiliating. These are just numbers, bear with them.

Pity Zelda is doing this bad, I guess the first real system seller for Wii U is gonna be Mario Kart U.

There aren't any nunmbers.

 

OT: OP I'm not saying that the game will sell good, actually I'm expecting to sell modestly, but you don't know what you just posted. Tsutaya ranking doesn't represent the market of Japan.

People really need to start raising their own standards and be better posters, this thing is just out of control, and it's getting really annoying. And, that goes to the people that are melting down too.



WW HD - Number 08 in "All time Sellers" on e-shop. I'm sure it was not mediocre



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Zelda games usually perform lower in Japan compared to the rest of the world. I'm pretty sure it will do better in the USA and Europe.



Another fun fact: Kirby is actually more popular than The Legend of Zelda in Japan.

Coupled with the low Wii U userbase and the low popularity of HD remakes in Japan, its fate was sealed.

But it can have good enough legs.



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7th place on a single chain is mediocre? MosDef a flaimbait thread and ppl should move on!!!



oni-link said:
7th place on a single chain is mediocre? MosDef a flaimbait thread and ppl should move on!!!

What kind of sales are you expecting?



It's a ten year old game.

/thread



Currently own:

 

  • Ps4

 

Currently playing: Witcher 3, Walking Dead S1/2, GTA5, Dying Light, Tomb Raider Remaster, MGS Ground Zeros

Looking at the latest hardware totals seems like bundles with push the Wii U

I think people are waiting for the NSMBU bundle as wind waker DID push systems in NA next week we'll see EU



I honestly think American sales will be similar, for three reasons

It's an old game

Small user base

Zelda's tend to have a niche market now a days