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landguy1 said:
kitler53 said:
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that's a very subjective angle though.  im not in the market for a fitness program.  to me the added value is $0.00 regardless of how much it would cost me to buy each of those fitness programs.   this is the argument that many playstation fans broke out in ps3's early life cycle,.. "but a blu ray player alone is worth $800!!!". 

no matter how you try to justify it $400 or $500 is a lot of money for most households.  these are very high quality devices but far more and far more costly than most will need.   ..but don't get me wrong, i'm excited for these machines and i love the fact that they do so much more than just gaming now.  i just can't see the appeal to non-gaming households.

To add to your thought, I would agree that the Fitness angle is of $0 value to anyone not interested.  That's kind of the point of adding so many capabilities.  To mosst people on this site, they want it for gaming.  So the $500 works for them for that purpose.  For another person, they may want it for the Media hub/ motion or voice controls.  If that is important for them, they may buy it for that alone.  For another it could be another capability that interests them and they do the same.  I guees that I am pointing out that we as gamers have already found the reason for our next gen purchase.  But the rest of the world may come to another conclusion as to the reason why they do it.

i get your angle and frankly your arugument has merit.  don't think i don't see the validity of where you are coming from.

maybe what i'm saying is that if you took the xbone and from it eliminated the headset, the expensive CPU, the GPU, the EDRAM, about 6 GB of ram, the really big cooling system required for a high performance device, the large 500 Gb harddrive, the  fluff in the gamepad like rumble in the triggers, and anything else that is explicitly there for the purpose of gaming i believe you'd be left with a $100 to $150 device.

so A) my argument really come down to it is too expensive for what it is to a non gamer.  the price is inflated by 3-4x.

and B) imho, MS and/or  Sony would be really smart to release a purely entertainment derivitive of their devices at a reasonably low cost.  the features are actually really kind of cool.   ..just not at that price. 

at this price the features make gamers feel really good about their purchase.  this is part of the reason i think pre-order numbers are so high and why i personally think that doesn't mean long term success.  i envision a really high front loaded sales but a really quick drop off not unlike what the wiiU experienced.   ...but that's a different thread.



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One other thought on this. If these additional features for the price grab the attention of just 1 in every 100 people around the globe, that would be an additional 30 MILLION unit sales. That's the real beauty of this concept. M$ already has all the R+D and technology in the box. All they really have to do is add the software to operate these extra functions. Will it add 30 million from it? Odds aren't in their favor, but call up Nintendo and ask them how this idea(Wii) works.