Obama is a lot less liberal than most people realize. Yes, he is a Democrat and believes in liberal ideals, but his actual positions are closer to center than the "liberal/conservative ranking" reports would have you believe.

Look at his health care plan, for example. The far left idea would be either a single-payer system or mandated coverage like Hillary's plan. Obama's plan creates a National Health Insurance Exchange, which establishes a baseline of service. Private insurance companies can participate in the exchange if they meet that baseline level of service and receive subsidies, just like the government's plan. This way, they can compete with the government's plan and each other on a level playing field to drive costs down through competition. IMO it's a good mix of regulation and free market principles, and a perfect example of how Obama isn't afraid to listen to the other side and try to incorporate their ideas.

Care to explain or do you just believe everything left wing tv channels say?  So really, Bush ruined the country, huh?  Economists say that it takes ten years from an admintrations time in office to see how they affected the economy.  From my watch, that would put the blame for the economy squarely on the shoulders of the Clinton administration.  Bush is actually trying to fix the economy to avoid a recession.

 I doubt she will.  She got CRUSHED at the Cleveland state debate.  I gotta think he picked up some major points.

I mean she broke down early and he won healthcare from her, her biggest position, at best she could only match in some questions.

The guy was unflappable and instead of the usual fierce attacking that sometimes gets people overboard, he stayed cool and blocked all of her points while sticking her at other points.

The guy has like the menality of Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods during these debates.   Just the overwhelming self assuridnace of "nothing you can do is really going to effect me."

It's quite extrodinary, he's the best political debater i've seen.  The national news debators don't like it as much though because it's not as interesting for the average person. 

I completly agree on this fact.  While Bush's methods may not be the best in the world the man who has been constantly hailed as the greatest genuis of the economy is really the source for a lot of it's problems.  Alan Greenspan is a very smart man, but he pumped the intrest rate high enough that it caused the ARM's to be sky high.  Now the current head of the Fed is lowering the rates, but the damage has already been done.  At this point we are seing the dollar drop like a rock because of the rate cuts, but there isn't much of a better choice.

Not saying the rate didn't need raising at all like Greenspan did, he just wasn't proactive enough to fix his mistakes before he left office.  Ironicaly enough the new guy is getting screwed because of it.

His would secure the boarders but after declare a "No harm done." amnesty type thing like most democrats want to do. In otherwords those people could go for tests to become full citizens so they would be under control of the government and have all the benfits of that. Unlike the traditional republican plan which is to secure the border, and then depending on whether you are a

Rich Guy: Keep things as they are with the current population of hispanics, after all they still need cheap labor.

Poor Guy: Deport every illegal alien out of the country.

At this point, it looks like the situation is better for McCain than for either Democrat. He can focus his resources in the general election while Obama and Clinton are still fighting among themselves.. the longer the Democratic primary lasts, the worst it will be.. 

Ever looked at his voting record?

100% NARAL & Planned Parenthood rating in 2007

15% Americans for Tax Reform in 2007

16% from the National Taxpayers Union

16% from the National Association of Manufacturers

10% from the Business-Industry PAC in 2007

17% from the NFIB in 2007

80% Rating from the ALCU

100% Rating from the Americans for Separation of Church & State

8% Rating from the American Conservative Union

A Rating from the NEA

0% Rating from the Family Research Council

13% from Citizens against Government Waste

F Rating from the NRA

How is that middle of the road? It's pretty cut and dry on both sides of the fence.

You are right that the GOP would have this locked up if people voted on the issues, 'cause Ron Paul would have already won.  They don't, they listen to guys liek John McCain who can change his opinion over the course of two years after having it for so many, just to get people to vote for him who wouldn't otherwise.

I have a feeling McCain can't win because he isn't firm on his principles and has proven in the public eye that he will just say what you want to hear to get your vote.

One quick thing about Obama and Democrats......

(and please don't take this as random flaming, but I'm not joking about this):

Despite the fact that the party is to the contrary (or appears to be), there are alot of Democrats in my area that are racists. I know quite a few people that, should Obama get nominated, will not vote for him. This *could* play into an issue for some voters. I'm sure this margin is not very large, but atleast where I live, there are a few people (Ohio, btw) that are VERY ANGRY that Obama has somehow jumped up from a double digit deficit, to start manhandling Hiliary. And I'm not talking just random Dems, but party-line dems, and even a few County Leaders.

McCain is just enough nutzo and enough of a moderate, he *might* be able to capture this part of the vote.