Source please?  Because Kratos looks waaay better than any character on Bayonetta so far

But even lens of truth didn't find anywhere near the advantage over PS3/360 than was present in ports like Need for Speed and Trine 2.

Atleast these guys didn't dismiss the WII U version completely like digital foundry did and plus SC Blacklist and rayman legends has shown that ubisoft is a capable enough publisher. It's kinda funny how an EA published game is superior on the WII U and you do realize that trine 2 was released a year before the wii u released so you gotta factor in the time that they did to polish the wii u version.

The developer of Trine 2, Frozenbyte, has gone on record saying the Wii U content would need to be downgraded to run on PS3/360, and that the Wii U is "definitely more powerful than the Xbox 360 and PS3".

http://mynintendonews.com/2012/10/10/wii-u-games-graphics-would-need-to-be-downscaled-on-playstation-3-and-xbox-360/

http://gamersxtreme.org/2013/07/08/developer-interview-with-frozenbyte-wii-u-is-a-truly-powerful-console/

There we have it, from a multiplatform developer.

Good start but we need someone bigger than frozenbyte so that others don't discount their asses.

I reckon Frozenbyte's talent lends a lot of weight to their word.

Trine 2 is incredibly gorgeous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBLLaPCRzfs

They are talented which grants them the right to comment about it's hardware capabilities compared to shin'en who didn't follow on their own words but my issue is that a developer like frozenbyte won't be enough to convince that the wii u is more powerful considering their voice and size is small so that is why I request ubisoft comment more on it's capabilities because a big publisher like them will not have their words denied and plus it might shut off ninjablade from spouting anymore BS.

I'd disagree that Shin'en don't follow their words, post-PS360 effects, in splitscreen 60fps, in a launch title made by 5 people that didn't require optimization seems in line with their claims.

But I agree that a big publisher would have more sway if they made an announcement, but I can't see them pissing off their PS3/360 audience like that when they comprise the vast majority of their sales. There's politics involved.

I don't know about you but to showcase hardware you use everything to show off it's power, not constraints such as low amount of developers or no optimizations.

Why would anyone (other than ninjablade) be pissed about the fact that the WII U is somewhat obviously stronger than ps360 plus it's the end of this generation so it's not like anyone would care. Another way for ubisoft to acknowledge that the WII U is more powerful is through the analysis of watch_dogs and I do believe they can pull it off.  

Your mistaken if u think I'm pissed, I originally thought the wiiu ports would run at 1080p, then I read the df comparison and saw ports were inferior, there is no excuse for a console with a more powerful gpu you and twice the ram to not atleast match the 360/ps3 ports, then you developers saying it's on par,slightly better, and even weaker, so of course I'm gonna think that wiiu is on par or slightly better then current gen